why sysop'ing sucks (sometimes)

[syntax53]

i suspended these two accounts for duping. only after i asked the realm if anyone knew them and tried to telepath them. i also left in the suspension message my AIM name so they could AIM me. note, this is a 35 minutes conversation, that could have been 10 seconds.



and this is what i get ...



Session Start (syntx53:MudUser): Wed Jan 21 19:52:50 2004

[19:52] MudUser: you fool why'd i dont have to accounts its my brother and me we connect through the same router



[19:53] syntx53: too bad

[19:53] syntx53: one account per ip, no exceptions

[19:53] syntx53: pick an account and i'll unsuspend it



[19:56] MudUser: hey you could answer me you spineless prick instead of todd

[19:56] MudUser: i didnt see that and maybe if sysops would answer me for once you couldnt have told me that



[19:56] syntx53: yeah, that will get me to reinstate your account

[19:56] syntx53: WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

[19:56] syntx53: [19:53] syntx53: too bad

[19:53] syntx53: one account per ip, no exceptions

[19:53] syntx53: pick an account and i'll unsuspend it

[19:56] syntx53: is that not answering you?



[19:56] MudUser: i have no messages from you

[19:56] MudUser: MudUser: you fool why'd i dont have to accounts its my brother and me we connect through the same router

MudUser: hey you could answer me you spineless prick instead of todd

MudUser: i didnt see that and maybe if sysops would answer me for once you couldnt have told me that

syntx53: yeah, that will get me to reinstate your account

syntx53: WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

syntx53: [19:53] syntx53: too bad

[19:53] syntx53: one account per ip, no exceptions

[19:53] syntx53: pick an account and i'll unsuspend it

syntx53: is that not answering you?

MudUser: i have no messages from you

[19:57] MudUser: thats what my aim says



[19:57] syntx53: i just pasted you my scrollback, are you calling me a liar?

[19:57] syntx53: oh no you're not, you're calling me a "spineless prick", that's right



[19:57] MudUser: i just pasted you mine AIM scroll back theres no messages from you at any point

[19:58] MudUser: up until the point i said spinless prick

[20:00] MudUser: its not a claim

[20:00] MudUser: i'm not getting your aim messages i'll send you a screen shot if you want



[20:01] syntx53: you just pasted me back things that i said ...

[20:01] syntx53: how can you say you aren't getting the messages



[20:01] MudUser: [19:53] syntx53: too bad

[19:53] syntx53: one account per ip, no exceptions

[19:53] syntx53: pick an account and i'll unsuspend it

[20:01] MudUser: that part

[20:01] MudUser: i never got



[20:02] syntx53: well, that doesn't warrant calling me a spineless prick .. what if i wasn't at my computer or something and just didn't get a chance to respond



[20:03] MudUser: but i knew you were there

[20:03] MudUser: because you were talking to todd

[20:03] MudUser: he was pasting me what you said



[20:04] syntx53: ok, so then a "hello?" or "are you there" or "did you get my aim?" or "dude?" or "yo, i need my addiction!" or anything else besides "hey you could answer me you spineless prick instead of todd"



[20:05] MudUser: well judging by yesterday when i asked you like 10 questions

and you never responded once i would say you have a habbit of not answering people



[20:05] MudUser: same with xetox



[20:05] syntx53: where? on mud while i was away? where the screen only holds so much information so you can't see the scroll back? or that's right, you didn't see that I DID respond, because it probably scrolled off of your screen.

[20:06] syntx53: (too)



[20:06] MudUser: on mud and on aim

[20:06] MudUser: both of you



[20:07] syntx53: well i had no aim, and that could have been because my laptop crashed yesterday. but AIM screens, and megamud scroll backs aren't answering machines. we can't exactly recall every single message. maybe you should have tried again. if you ask anyone that has tried to ask me anything, you'll find i an almost always very responsive.



[20:08] MudUser: i tried for 2 days to tell xetox my brother was going to play

[20:08] MudUser: and to get a retrain for me

[20:08] MudUser: you answered my retrain with a big f you and xetox hasnt answered me

[20:08] MudUser: ever

[20:08] MudUser: not once

[20:08] MudUser: even when he's gossiping things so i know he's there



[20:09] syntx53: lol, i said F you? i don't think so. i'm guessing you were the one who asked to get a retrain so that you could script the mummy and then get another retrain the next day to put your stats back. that's called CHEATING (IMO), as i told you



[20:09] MudUser: thats what retrains are for



[20:10] syntx53: no retrains are to fix messed up stats, no to allow to accomplish something in the game and then put it back



[20:12] MudUser: look i'm sorry called you spineless but i never got your ims and after 2 days of not getting any answers from either of you it gets irritating

[20:12] MudUser: if one of you had pointed out that there are no exceptions this whole situation could have been avoided



[20:13] syntx53: it scrolls by your screen during every login with a HUGE "RULES" message in BRIGHT RED

[20:13] syntx53: you should have AT LEAST read it once during your first signup



http://www.mudinfo.net/images/rules.gif



[20:13] MudUser: put a vote up ask how many people actually see that



[20:14] syntx53: lol, comon. you are the very first person to even try to dupe, so don't give me that



[20:14] MudUser: i didnt try to dupe it is my brother



[20:14] syntx53: sorry, lemme rephrase. you are the very first person to break rule #1, so don't give me that



[20:14] MudUser: i asked when i got in the realm how many per IP

[20:15] MudUser: they said one

[20:15] MudUser: then yesterday i started asking xetox and you if my brother could play from the same ip

[20:15] MudUser: i wouldnt have asked if i had saw that



[20:16] syntx53: ok, that's isn't our fault either. and like i said, i do remember you telepathing me, i only remember one tele tho, and i did respond. but also as i said, the megamud convo window only holds so much, so neither of us saw the other messages. my point is you didn't try very hard to contact us and your trying to blame us for it.



[20:18] MudUser: i certainly did try hard enough and i'm not blaming anyone i'm just saying it was a little unfair to throw out a suspension when all you had to do was say no or have answered me for the past 2 days



[20:21] syntx53: i suspended you 20 minutes ago ... it's not like it was a week ago. i left my AIM in the suspension msg solely so you could ask for an account back. when you FIRST messaged me, i told you you could have an account back. you didn't see/get the IMs. yes you just said all i had to do was say no ... I"M NOT TRYING TO SAY NO. and as i just explained over the last 20 minutes, I TRIED TO ANSWER YOU THE ONE TIME THAT I SAW YOUR TELE.

[20:21] syntx53: yes=yet



[20:22] MudUser: fine



[20:22] syntx53: heres another question

[20:22] syntx53: why didn't you ask me when you asked about the retrain yesterday?



[20:22] MudUser: because he wasnt up

[20:22] MudUser: so he wasnt asking me



[20:22] syntx53: you need you brother to tell when to ask me something?

[20:23] syntx53: if you had been trying so desperately to get ahold of me, i'd think you would have just asked me then



[20:23] MudUser: i was tired i wanted to set up a script and go to bed

[20:23] MudUser: it wasnt the first thing on my mind when you said no

[20:24] MudUser: i was thinking more along the lines of murdering your family



[20:24] syntx53: for denying you a retrain based on my principals of being a sysop ... right



[20:24] MudUser: i have a temper and at 3 am or whatever it was it certainly dosent get better



[20:24] syntx53: that's not my fault



[20:25] MudUser: i never said it was now did i

[20:26] MudUser: you trying dying everywhere you try to script all day and then getting refused for the reetrain



[20:26] syntx53: how old are you?



[20:26] MudUser: 22



[20:27] syntx53: heh, i think you should reread what you just said and then think how about how much being denied a retrain because you can't script somewhere should really effect your emotions



[20:28] MudUser: whatever i dont want to argue anymore so if your going to unsuspend me then do so if not then fine



[20:28] syntx53: [19:53] syntx53: pick an account and i'll unsuspend it



[20:28] MudUser: lacheln



[20:29] syntx53: unsuspended



[20:29] MudUser: thank you



[20:29] syntx53: you're welcome

[20:29] syntx53: heh your welcome even

[Rust In Peace]

You must love sysop-ing, otherwise you *would've* handled the conversation in 10 seconds. :)

[dxpac666]

Unsuspend him, I don't want him making his way over to my board pulling that shit.

[Pantharen]

Syntax, you have more patience than I do, after "prick" I would have banned his IP, and told him to fuck off. and dont let the door kick him in the head on the way out.



Him not seeing the RULES, 1 account per IP, is bullshit. Hell you can't miss it as when you log, it seems to slow down a little bit right at that point.







BTW: What is account deletion time, as I haven't been on Morbid in awhile. is my account/char still there or is it gone?

[Necrosaro420]

Blah, dont put his name as "Muduser" hes a fuckhead, put his name out there so everyone can see who this is =P hehe

[Necrosaro420]

Panthran, morbid was reset about a 4 or 5 days ago

[Kai Shadowbane]

[20:28] syntx53: [19:53] syntx53: pick an account and i'll unsuspend it



[20:28] MudUser: lacheln



guess you missed that part huh?

[Sven]

Anyone who was online at the time knows who it was :)

[apathy]

Man, you have more patience than I do.



Right around this point:

[20:14] MudUser: i asked when i got in the realm how many per IP

[20:15] MudUser: they said one



I would've yelled my head off, banned his IP, and told all the other sysops in here to ban it, too. Last I checked, if you get an answer, you listen to it, even if you're waiting to hear from a sysop if it's right. Or, better yet, you read the logon screens and mud entrance message to see if there's anything in there you need to know (and, well, there was). It's amazing how uncommon common sense is.



I love how people who get a service for free that someone else puts a lot of time into for free feel like they're owed the world. Does anyone else here get sick and tired of people bitching that their free entertainment isn't built around their own needs? If my brother wanted to play mud, and I didn't know if more than 1 character per IP was allowed, he could sit on his ass for 2 days until I found out.



Oh, and btw:

[20:29] syntx53: you're welcome

[20:29] syntx53: heh your welcome even



You were right the first time :cool:

[Platinum]

LoL..nod Apathy, I was thinking about that "you're welcome" thing too..lol.



And yes, when he asked in the realm how many chars per IP and someone told him one, that should have been it..he shouldn't have had to ask a sysop, he already got his answer.



Also - The first time you log onto a BBS, you have to set up your login, right? Well..I hope this teaches everyone a lesson to PAY ATTENTION next time.