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thai to english translator

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2003 11:59 pm
by Raybdbomb
can someone help me find an online thai to english translator, similar to http://babelfish.altavista.com/

Re: thai to english translator

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 12:05 am
by Raybdbomb
as far as i can tell, it doesn't exist... sigh

Re: thai to english translator

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 12:55 am
by Aragon
been vising thai-mail-order-brides.com for your birthday eh ray?

Re: thai to english translator

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 2:12 pm
by EvanElias
can someone help me find an online thai to english translator, similar to http://babelfish.altavista.com/



Dunno of any Thai-specific translators... :(



Babelfish works by having linguists manually code it to handle specific languages... its not a very good approach since it takes a frightening amount of time to add a new language into its system.



Lots of dollars at universities are going towards "universal" translators that work using probability models... I'd bet you'll start to see some of these go public within the next two years.



But for the moment, seems that you may be outta luck, sorry

Re: thai to english translator

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 2:17 pm
by Aragon
Dunno of any Thai-specific translators... :(



Babelfish works by having linguists manually code it to handle specific languages... its not a very good approach since it takes a frightening amount of time to add a new language into its system.









I think that's a good system in terms of getting a good translation... :cigar:

Re: thai to english translator

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 2:18 pm
by Raybdbomb
i'm getting systran premium 4, which is a $1,000 program, and is what babelfish is backed by. i'mma see if that offers it, it claims all "major asian languages"

Re: thai to english translator

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 2:21 pm
by Raybdbomb
bah it looks like it's neither standard nor in their language packs offer thai, sigh



man i can't wait 2 years, make one now EVANELIAS

Re: thai to english translator

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 2:02 am
by EvanElias
I think that's a good system in terms of getting a good translation... :cigar:



Actually, you'd be surprised, but it isn't! There's two main downfalls of the babelfish approach: the selection of languages is limited (again, since every language and its grammar is entered manually) and the quality of translations isn't really any better than the cutting-edge probability-driven models.



Probabilistic models can spit out sentences with the correct meaning (by examining probabilities of each meaning, based on the context of the other words/sentences) and correct grammar (by analyzing the chances of different sentences actually being uttered in the langauge) to spit out a good translation with reasonable accuracy...



Babelfish doesn't do probabilities, which is why it sometimes spits out sentences with good meanings but horrible grammar, it doesn't check to see if what it's spitting out is actually worded in the way someone would say it in real life.



Probability = powerful stuff, the vast majority of spelling checkers and grammar checkers are based on *simple* probability models... more complex models can do even better linguistic stuff...



man i can't wait 2 years, make one now EVANELIAS



lol, i wish, if i could do that i'd be ridiculously rich :)



Two of my professors are actually working on one (probably in collaboration with profs from other schools, each having an army of grad students working at slave wages)...