I have a Linksys 10/100 5-port hub, I setup my Laptop & desktop under the same workgroup. They see their own name on the network but not each other.
I just had the laptop at my dad's place and set it up there connected the laptop to the hub and his desktop no problems whats so ever.
I get the POS home and now nothing connects. Also this is really FUBAR, the RJ45 I had connected from my DSL modem to my nic worked just fine. But I connected it to the hub and now it doesn't work at all? WTF? it was working great 2 hrs ago. if I am just using that peticular RJ45 it works, but it doesn't when attached to the hub.
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What operating system on each?
What is the IP address, gateway, and DNS for each? (from dos type "ipconfig /all" for win2k+, "winipcfg" for win98)
Your hub may have an uplink port. An uplink port connects two inactive devices (IE: a hub and a switch or two hubs, etc). If you plugged in a computer/cable modem into the uplink, it probably wouldn't work. If you are using the uplink for something, many low-end routers disable the port next to it as well while the uplink is active.
You say it works when you don't go through the hub? How does it work? You connect an RJ45 cable straight from one PC to the other? If that works, then that RJ45 cable you have isn't a straight through cable and most likely a cross-over. A cross-over cable connects two active devices (IE: two computers) without going through a hub.
What is the IP address, gateway, and DNS for each? (from dos type "ipconfig /all" for win2k+, "winipcfg" for win98)
Your hub may have an uplink port. An uplink port connects two inactive devices (IE: a hub and a switch or two hubs, etc). If you plugged in a computer/cable modem into the uplink, it probably wouldn't work. If you are using the uplink for something, many low-end routers disable the port next to it as well while the uplink is active.
You say it works when you don't go through the hub? How does it work? You connect an RJ45 cable straight from one PC to the other? If that works, then that RJ45 cable you have isn't a straight through cable and most likely a cross-over. A cross-over cable connects two active devices (IE: two computers) without going through a hub.
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Kai Shadowbane
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Syntax nailed it, tho I don't think the IP addy/gateway/dns for each should matter in that situation.
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Originally posted by syntax53
What operating system on each?
What is the IP address, gateway, and DNS for each? (from dos type "ipconfig /all" for win2k+, "winipcfg" for win98)
Your hub may have an uplink port. An uplink port connects two inactive devices (IE: a hub and a switch or two hubs, etc). If you plugged in a computer/cable modem into the uplink, it probably wouldn't work. If you are using the uplink for something, many low-end routers disable the port next to it as well while the uplink is active.
You say it works when you don't go through the hub? How does it work? You connect an RJ45 cable straight from one PC to the other? If that works, then that RJ45 cable you have isn't a straight through cable and most likely a cross-over. A cross-over cable connects two active devices (IE: two computers) without going through a hub.
I'm running windows ME (yeah I know how much a POS it is already)
What is the IP address, gateway, and DNS for each?
Dun remember what the IP's are. Question on the IP's generally how often does a dynamic IP generally change. My IP has been the same (hasn't changed) in almost 2 months, is this normal?
I'm not running a X-over, What I ment was the cable worked just fine from the DSL modem, to the computer. But doesn't work when I connect it to the hub.
No I dont have anything connected to the uplink. I have taken some networking courses, so I'm not a complete idiot, I know just enough to get into trouble.
I have another problem is the laptop screen is busted and only one monitor, and I'm missing a cable for my video switch box. So I'm not gonna mess with it til I get a second monitor.
What operating system on each?
What is the IP address, gateway, and DNS for each? (from dos type "ipconfig /all" for win2k+, "winipcfg" for win98)
Your hub may have an uplink port. An uplink port connects two inactive devices (IE: a hub and a switch or two hubs, etc). If you plugged in a computer/cable modem into the uplink, it probably wouldn't work. If you are using the uplink for something, many low-end routers disable the port next to it as well while the uplink is active.
You say it works when you don't go through the hub? How does it work? You connect an RJ45 cable straight from one PC to the other? If that works, then that RJ45 cable you have isn't a straight through cable and most likely a cross-over. A cross-over cable connects two active devices (IE: two computers) without going through a hub.
I'm running windows ME (yeah I know how much a POS it is already)
What is the IP address, gateway, and DNS for each?
Dun remember what the IP's are. Question on the IP's generally how often does a dynamic IP generally change. My IP has been the same (hasn't changed) in almost 2 months, is this normal?
I'm not running a X-over, What I ment was the cable worked just fine from the DSL modem, to the computer. But doesn't work when I connect it to the hub.
No I dont have anything connected to the uplink. I have taken some networking courses, so I'm not a complete idiot, I know just enough to get into trouble.
I have another problem is the laptop screen is busted and only one monitor, and I'm missing a cable for my video switch box. So I'm not gonna mess with it til I get a second monitor.
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If you IP addy hasn't changed in 2 months then you MUST have a static IP address.. Uhm.. therefore you cannot have a dynamic IP addy.. now if you have a static IP address and you want to change it, thats no problem, change your MAC address on your NIC card.. :)
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I have a dynamic IP address from my cable company. It changes on occasion, rarely, maybe once every four months. I dunno why it changes, but I get an outage for about 10 minutes every few months and after that it changes.
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Originally posted by Pantharen
Dun remember what the IP's are. Question on the IP's generally how often does a dynamic IP generally change. My IP has been the same (hasn't changed) in almost 2 months, is this normal?
Originally posted by The Ghost
If you IP addy hasn't changed in 2 months then you MUST have a static IP address.. Uhm.. therefore you cannot have a dynamic IP addy.. now if you have a static IP address and you want to change it, thats no problem, change your MAC address on your NIC card.. :)
Originally posted by Speed
I have a dynamic IP address from my cable company. It changes on occasion, rarely, maybe once every four months. I dunno why it changes, but I get an outage for about 10 minutes every few months and after that it changes.
When DHCP (the service that gives out dynamic IPs to it's clients) gives out a address it lease's it to the host. The lease time is configurable, but the standard time is usually 7 days. That IP address is then reserved for you for 7 days. If you shutdown your computer and load it back up the next day, your lease will still be in the lease 'pool' and it will give you the same address. Unless you switch network cards or lose your connection past your lease expiration time your address should never change. I've had the same dynamic address for my cable modem for over a year. The lease is leased to the MAC address of the network card btw.
Dun remember what the IP's are. Question on the IP's generally how often does a dynamic IP generally change. My IP has been the same (hasn't changed) in almost 2 months, is this normal?
Originally posted by The Ghost
If you IP addy hasn't changed in 2 months then you MUST have a static IP address.. Uhm.. therefore you cannot have a dynamic IP addy.. now if you have a static IP address and you want to change it, thats no problem, change your MAC address on your NIC card.. :)
Originally posted by Speed
I have a dynamic IP address from my cable company. It changes on occasion, rarely, maybe once every four months. I dunno why it changes, but I get an outage for about 10 minutes every few months and after that it changes.
When DHCP (the service that gives out dynamic IPs to it's clients) gives out a address it lease's it to the host. The lease time is configurable, but the standard time is usually 7 days. That IP address is then reserved for you for 7 days. If you shutdown your computer and load it back up the next day, your lease will still be in the lease 'pool' and it will give you the same address. Unless you switch network cards or lose your connection past your lease expiration time your address should never change. I've had the same dynamic address for my cable modem for over a year. The lease is leased to the MAC address of the network card btw.
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Originally posted by Pantharen
I'm not running a X-over, What I ment was the cable worked just fine from the DSL modem, to the computer. But doesn't work when I connect it to the hub.
are you sure its a hub and not a router? i know that cable modems wont give an address to a new mac address unless the cable modem's power has been cycled. but when just going through a hub, the cable modem should have no idea that there is a hub is even there. are there other computers connected to the hub when you're trying this? maybe try with just one computer, a hub, and the cable modem.
I'm not running a X-over, What I ment was the cable worked just fine from the DSL modem, to the computer. But doesn't work when I connect it to the hub.
are you sure its a hub and not a router? i know that cable modems wont give an address to a new mac address unless the cable modem's power has been cycled. but when just going through a hub, the cable modem should have no idea that there is a hub is even there. are there other computers connected to the hub when you're trying this? maybe try with just one computer, a hub, and the cable modem.
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Kai Shadowbane
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nod, I think you may have to run that shitty internet sharing wizard thing to have them both get internet, though running ME, I dunno how that one works, hopefully it has that still
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Originally posted by syntax53
are you sure its a hub and not a router? i know that cable modems wont give an address to a new mac address unless the cable modem's power has been cycled. but when just going through a hub, the cable modem should have no idea that there is a hub is even there. are there other computers connected to the hub when you're trying this? maybe try with just one computer, a hub, and the cable modem.
At this point, the laptop getting out to the internet is the least of my worries.
As there are files on the laptop that much come off. To do so, I have to beable to gain access to the system through my desktop.
Original quote by me.
I'm not running a X-over, What I ment was the cable worked just fine from the DSL modem, to the computer. But doesn't work when I connect it to the hub
Ok let see if I can make my problem a little clearer.
What the problem is: I have 3 pieces of RJ45, 2 for the HUB (yes it is a HUB, NO it isn't a router) I have DSL, not Cable, Yes I know the difference. my provider is www.telus.net
also I am ComTIA Certified.
Ok back to the problem. I have a 6' length of RJ45 that works great from the DSL modem, to the computer.
Will not work from the HUB to anything, which is confusing the hell outta me.
2nd part of problem; is that when I have just the laptop and the desktop connected via the hub, NOT connected to the DSL modem, neither are seeing each other.
are you sure its a hub and not a router? i know that cable modems wont give an address to a new mac address unless the cable modem's power has been cycled. but when just going through a hub, the cable modem should have no idea that there is a hub is even there. are there other computers connected to the hub when you're trying this? maybe try with just one computer, a hub, and the cable modem.
At this point, the laptop getting out to the internet is the least of my worries.
As there are files on the laptop that much come off. To do so, I have to beable to gain access to the system through my desktop.
Original quote by me.
I'm not running a X-over, What I ment was the cable worked just fine from the DSL modem, to the computer. But doesn't work when I connect it to the hub
Ok let see if I can make my problem a little clearer.
What the problem is: I have 3 pieces of RJ45, 2 for the HUB (yes it is a HUB, NO it isn't a router) I have DSL, not Cable, Yes I know the difference. my provider is www.telus.net
also I am ComTIA Certified.
Ok back to the problem. I have a 6' length of RJ45 that works great from the DSL modem, to the computer.
Will not work from the HUB to anything, which is confusing the hell outta me.
2nd part of problem; is that when I have just the laptop and the desktop connected via the hub, NOT connected to the DSL modem, neither are seeing each other.