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Maybe I'm psychoanalyzing too much, or maybe not enough. I know very little about drugs, and seeing as Speed has been well educated on the subject, you could help explain a few things?



I'm assuming you mean the topics in your post. Sure, I'll go through and see what I can do. If you have any specific questions, fire away.





Well, I am not a conisseur (sp?) of weed, but I have had my fair share of tokes. I never had any of these kind of experiences, the most that happens to me is a I build up a paranoia for the people around at times, and go to bed assuming the worst.



I'll hit on the paranoia first. Paranoia is a side-effect of marijuana. The one thing that I have noticed in my past experiences is that the more you smoke, the less side-effects do anything. Back when I used to first start smoking, I would be paranoid as fuck when smoking. We'd go to a few spots, each one was a nice chill spot, hidden away from anyone. We never once saw anyone at any of our spots, but when I was stoned, I would think there were people out there. The trees would move a certain way, a branch would creak, an animal would run, and I'd wig out. My friends helped me calm down, cause it's much easier to not be paranoid when you don't actually hear anything. I would never be paranoid at what other people would say or do, only on things that I thought was out in the darkness or whatnot.



I've only been smoking for a little under five years. I have to cut out about a year of that because I quit for a period of time while I was with my ex, since weed was worse than heroine in her mind. After I had been smoking for a few years, my notice of side effects was significantly reduced. This includes paranoia, slurring of speech, stumbling, attention span, and all other related side effects that I can't think of right now. My high has not decreased, other than the expected tolerance that I have drawn up, but I can still smoke all night long and not get paranoid.



Basically what I'm trying to say is that if you smoke long enough, you will no longer be as paranoid and you will experience a more manageable high.





I have found that smoking weed helps me sleep better most of the time though, so I usually only do it late at night.



Not necessarily. There are many many types of weed, and all of them serve their purposes. The most basic difference is between Indica and Sativa. These are the two different types of weed plants. You probably won't find very many pure Indica or pure Sativa plants, since there are so many damn hybrids. You do get weed that you can tell the difference, though.



Sativa will represent a skinnier stalk, less bulky buds. Indica buds are thicker stalks, thicker buds. Sativa gives you a nice chill almost surreal/trippy high. Indica gives you a body buzz, inducing sleep. Touching back on the paranoia subject, sativa would give you more of an anxious paranoid high, it hits your mind more than your body.



Again, you probably won't find a pure sativa, or a pure indica, but if you don't know the visual differences between the two, you can sit down stoned and analyze your high and determine which is more prominent. I dislike smoking pure sativas or pure indicas, they give me too much of one side of the spectrum. A pure indica bud will put you out if you aren't prepared for it. A pure sativa would most likely be classified as creeper bud. Creeper bud basically shuts down your receptors for a short period of time, probably about 10-15 minutes (enough to smoke several bowls/bong hits). When your receptors turn back on, the high hits you all at once. I like creeper bud on occasion, it's fun to take a half dozen bingers, sit back sober, and just wait for it to creep up behind me and beat the living shit out of me.



There's all kinds of weed, there's weed for eating, weed for fucking, weed for sleeping, weed for exercising, weed for chilling, weed for relaxing, weed for playing video games, weed for typing, weed for thinking, there is weed for everything. I popped out over two lbs of some high quality indica dominant bud last year outdoors with three plants. Instead of smoking it, I simply got rid of most of it and bought a cornucopia of buds for special occasions.



If you are not a seasoned smoker, then even the slighest indica dominant will probably put you out, especially if you are not expecting it. All weed can be used for all occasions, it's just some are better at it than others.





During the day I become very groggy and less active, but then again, who isn't? Alcohol is my drug of choice, and I recently tried coke. But that's getting off the subject.



I have no respect for coke heads, or anyone who is actively using it.



Also, when I did shrooms, that increased the paranoia aspect 5x as much as weed.



Shrooms give you more of a mind high than a body high. Hence the paranoia. I'm not as versed in shrooms as I am weed, but I do know that paranoia is to be expected.



I have since tried shrooms, and have not gotten the same aspect as the first time. I assume maybe when I'm under the drug, I begin to think something, and since my brain isn't firing right, it is forever etched in my brain?



I don't quite understand where you are going with this.

Guys what you all need is good homegrown BC BUD



British Columbian weed is good mids, that's all. If you think BC is the best bud you've smoked, you need to buy some seeds online and make your own homegrown hybrids. I suggest blueberry or white rhino for starters.



out my one of my porthole windows I had a white dryer tube that dropped to an 1" above the water and a computer fan inside the porthole drawing any smell out, as soon as it hit the salt water poof no smell. Well anyway this boat could hold 300 starter plant at one shot, and I would sell them depending on the grade of the weed, and the hieght of the plant, anywhere from $10 to $35.



Were you growing these under sunlight, or under a light? If you were using a light, was it high pressure sodium, or aluminum halide? (Bluish light, or orangish light?)





(pot doesn't need pesticides it has a natural it's called THC residue (the sticky shit on the leaves and stock )



Really? Gosh....

Originally posted by Hobo_Bill

Apathy, sounds like someone laced your shit. I had a similar experience when I smoked a jay laced with PCP. I freaked the fuck out, ran around downtown Los Angeles thinking I had died and was a ghost, I mean I really believed that shit! I ended up nekkid, tore up from jumping fences and shit, and in jail for assaulting a police officer. I don't remember much, just that I was really scared, didn't know what to do, and after that I had a real hard time enjoying my high when I smoked, because I started to get a little panicky remembering what had happened. For me it was all in my head, cuz I'm a stoner and a half now.



Dude, I used to smoke straight PCP. It wasn't that :) And from like 6-7 different sacks? That were all gotten from different people? In different states and countries? I don't think it was dusted...

Originally posted by Speed

I would say that Apathy's panic attacks were from laced weed, but he says he has tried 8-10 times after that. I don't think that there's an 80% chance of getting laced weed that will do the same thing. I do think that it is a possibility that the first time it happened, it was laced, and now it's a mind thing.



Except that the first weed that did it to me was purchased from a store that legally sold it. It could have just been REALLY good, strong weed, but I know it couldn't have been laced (would make it illegal, and their shit is tested constantly by the local cops for that sort of thing).



As for it all being in my head....well, there's a good chance of that. But at the same time, in my head or not, it's not worth freaking out like that just to get high :) There's plenty of other toys out there to play with. Besides, I've started to grow away from them all and just lean on good ole alcohol -- my drug of choice.

Originally posted by MrBlack

My main problem with it is that some strains have boosted my paranoia. I freaked out one night last year while I was sitting on the couch, because there were people standing about 3 feet behind me, and I can't stand that at all. I get to think people are talking about me constantly, so I've abandoned a few parties because of it.



Dude, I couldn't agree with this more. E has made me a much chiller person in the day-to-day world, acid/shrooms has let me recognize more beauty in our world, and coke, well, has gotten me fucked up a bunch....but weed has done nothing but freak me out and make me anti-social. Which is the opposite of what it did for me when I was younger....sigh.



That whole paragraph of yours could very easily have been written by me. I feel for you.

Originally posted by Speed

[...]After I had been smoking for a few years, my notice of side effects was significantly reduced. This includes paranoia, slurring of speech, stumbling, attention span, and all other related side effects that I can't think of right now.[...]



Short term memory loss? :D

I don't really have short term memory loss. I have long term memory loss. I'd still gladly trade what I lost in memory for what I've gained in memories, if that's understandable by anyone but me.

Were you growing these under sunlight, or under a light? If you were using a light, was it high pressure sodium, or aluminum halide? (Bluish light, or orangish light?)



Being started plants I didn't need sodium or halide. All I used were some special blue grow light a buddy of mine that worked at a nursery gave me. Had them set on a timer so they weren't getting light all the time.



I also had an automatic watering system setup as Water and electricty were included in my moorage fees and there was no limit as almost everyone (me included) had sump pumps running all the time. And being it was a government wharf there was no limit nor meter on the water. So no one was the wiser.





British Columbian weed is good mids, that's all. If you think BC is the best bud you've smoked, you need to buy some seeds online and make your own homegrown hybrids. I suggest blueberry or white rhino for starters.



Last weed I smoked was Blueberry, and I took a very small toke as my brothers girlfriend told me that this was very nasty shit.

And I was very fucked up. Yup Blueberry is very kool.







(pot doesn't need pesticides it has a natural it's called THC residue (the sticky shit on the leaves and stock )





Really? Gosh....





Gee that makes me look like a real retard doesn't it. :wstupid:

Being started plants I didn't need sodium or halide. All I used were some special blue grow light a buddy of mine that worked at a nursery gave me. Had them set on a timer so they weren't getting light all the time.



If it was a grow light, and it had a blue shade, it was high pressure sodium. You grow your clones up to a foot in high pressure sodium, then start budding with aluminum halide. If it was simply a light, that was blue, then you were growing dirt and your plants probably won't bud properly when they are switched to their new schedule. I think you just didn't know any better, and were using high pressure sodium.

Originally posted by Hobo_Bill

from pcp (angel dust) to speed to fuckin embalming fluid.



heh embalming fluid\ether\pcp is called "wet", either smoked by itself or with some chronic. smoke the good shit and you get stuck (can move but dont wanna for an hour or 2).. some of the most confusing nights of my life come from bein wetted... its good for a first time experience but it makes ppl into total zombies