Navy releasing Taliban members!
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Voodoo_Chile
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Re: Navy releasing Taliban members!
Saddam invaded Kuwait because he thought (and probably still does) Kuwait belonged to Iraq. Kind of like Hitler believed parts of Austria & Poland belonged to Germany for reich libenstraum (living space). Of course America has interests in Kuwait, and so do countries in the mideast region, as well as nations throughout the world. Saddam did not invade Kuwait because American companies were stealing Iraqi oil. Besides, most oil reserves Saddam controls are in Northern Iraq. Why do you think he's been slaughtering ethnic kurds in the north? Well, now you know. He depends upon those valuable oil resources to fund his tyranny, thus rules the country with an iron hand. So, For the love of God, quit making Saddam out to be the good guy. He was not justified in invading Iran (eventhough we supported him then). He was not justified in invading Kuwait. He was not justified in stockpiling WMD. He was not justified in expelling weapons inspectors. He was not justified in sending money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. He is not justified in defying international law for 12 years. And he sure as hell is not justified in training al-qaeda operatives in chemical weapons know-how. The USA or Saddam Hussein, make your ****ing choice. Let's just hope its the right one...
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He was not justified in stockpilings WMD. He was not justified in expelling weapons inspectors. He was not justified in sending money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. He is not justified in defying international law for 12 years. And he sure as hell is not justified by training al-qaeda operatives in chemical weapons know-how.
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lets start here..... Ummm then by what right do we stock pile shit that makes his shit look like the flu anda bomb that makes the atomic bomb look like a pussy? Explain that one? and dont use "Because we can or Were the USA". Considering our CIA has sent money to terrorists states and has in part TRAINED terrorists, we got NO room on that one to bitch. Im pretty sure if the UN told the US it had to disarm all its nice little seceret weapons, we'd give them the finger too, now wouldnt we? And as for the supposed "link" to terrorism, Notice how this pile of bullshit only comes out NOW, when they want to find reasons to invade. Kinda strange how back when it happened, they claimed IRAQ had nothing to do with it, and how the german and frence intellagence agencies say he STILL doesnt have anything to do with it, but then again most people only read what they are told.
Im not sayin he's a great guy by the way, im saying what the US is doing is ILLEGAL. By law your not allowed to invade another country, Dethrone a leader and establish a puppet government just to suit your needs. All countrys in the world, including this one have laws against it, but considering we bend and break our own laws all the time to do as Bush wishes, im sure one more wont hurt Eh? Oh and before you give me any more shit, i personaly dont like saddam. While i do believe he is a tyrant and while he does have weapons of mass distruction he is only doing what any countries leader would do. also i dont see UN inspectors comming into american cities and looking for anything. Why the hell not. Because they know it would take too long and they'd have to air the fact we have tons of stockpiled chemcial and bio weapons and that we still have a large reserve of neuclear missiles, that by treaty were supposed to have been destroyed.
President bush is the worst thing that could happen to this country, seeing as most of this war is NOT about WMD, its about OIL and putting in a government that will sell it to him. I urge you to follow more than the Government controled For-Profit media in America and Brittan for they show you what they want you to see and distort the facts..
And i still say :fyou: Osama,
Relorian MaLorn
He was not justified in stockpilings WMD. He was not justified in expelling weapons inspectors. He was not justified in sending money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. He is not justified in defying international law for 12 years. And he sure as hell is not justified by training al-qaeda operatives in chemical weapons know-how.
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lets start here..... Ummm then by what right do we stock pile shit that makes his shit look like the flu anda bomb that makes the atomic bomb look like a pussy? Explain that one? and dont use "Because we can or Were the USA". Considering our CIA has sent money to terrorists states and has in part TRAINED terrorists, we got NO room on that one to bitch. Im pretty sure if the UN told the US it had to disarm all its nice little seceret weapons, we'd give them the finger too, now wouldnt we? And as for the supposed "link" to terrorism, Notice how this pile of bullshit only comes out NOW, when they want to find reasons to invade. Kinda strange how back when it happened, they claimed IRAQ had nothing to do with it, and how the german and frence intellagence agencies say he STILL doesnt have anything to do with it, but then again most people only read what they are told.
Im not sayin he's a great guy by the way, im saying what the US is doing is ILLEGAL. By law your not allowed to invade another country, Dethrone a leader and establish a puppet government just to suit your needs. All countrys in the world, including this one have laws against it, but considering we bend and break our own laws all the time to do as Bush wishes, im sure one more wont hurt Eh? Oh and before you give me any more shit, i personaly dont like saddam. While i do believe he is a tyrant and while he does have weapons of mass distruction he is only doing what any countries leader would do. also i dont see UN inspectors comming into american cities and looking for anything. Why the hell not. Because they know it would take too long and they'd have to air the fact we have tons of stockpiled chemcial and bio weapons and that we still have a large reserve of neuclear missiles, that by treaty were supposed to have been destroyed.
President bush is the worst thing that could happen to this country, seeing as most of this war is NOT about WMD, its about OIL and putting in a government that will sell it to him. I urge you to follow more than the Government controled For-Profit media in America and Brittan for they show you what they want you to see and distort the facts..
And i still say :fyou: Osama,
Relorian MaLorn
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Voodoo_Chile
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Re: Navy releasing Taliban members!
America can stockpile bio-chemical & nuclear weapons because we aren't a threat to our neighbors. Do you really think we'll invade Canada or Mexico anytime soon? Absolutely not. That is more than can be said about Iraq. Saddam is a continuing threat to his neighbors in the middle east, as well as his own countrymen while he's in power.
Secondly, American facilities are in compliance with the UN based atomic energy agency. We store and facilitate these weapons with the upmost care. Can you say that about Iraq? Do we really need another Chernobyl incident?
So you can't make an Iraqi-American parallel. Well the US does, blah..blah..blah. Its the same old song & dance.
And as for America training and facilitating terrorist regimes, let's start with the two biggest examples liberals use. First of all, when we armed Afghans they were up against the Soviet Union during the height of the cold war. Islamic terrorism was not our biggest enemy. Soviet expansion & communist dominance was the bigger adversary. Secondly, we did support Saddam during the Iraq-Iran war. Why? Because of the Ayatollah Khuemani, that's why. You have to remember, Saddam was fighting another enemy of ours. The Ayatollah went as far as to put a bounty on a man for writing a book about Islam & blowing up a barracks in Beirut, Lebanon that killed 70+ marines.
Its a geopolitical chess game. The cold war has ended and radical islamists are now the greatest enemies we face. Sometimes you have to make alliances with people that you normally wouldn't to battle a threat you're facing at the time. So the US aided terrorist regimes argument is paper thin too.
Secondly, American facilities are in compliance with the UN based atomic energy agency. We store and facilitate these weapons with the upmost care. Can you say that about Iraq? Do we really need another Chernobyl incident?
So you can't make an Iraqi-American parallel. Well the US does, blah..blah..blah. Its the same old song & dance.
And as for America training and facilitating terrorist regimes, let's start with the two biggest examples liberals use. First of all, when we armed Afghans they were up against the Soviet Union during the height of the cold war. Islamic terrorism was not our biggest enemy. Soviet expansion & communist dominance was the bigger adversary. Secondly, we did support Saddam during the Iraq-Iran war. Why? Because of the Ayatollah Khuemani, that's why. You have to remember, Saddam was fighting another enemy of ours. The Ayatollah went as far as to put a bounty on a man for writing a book about Islam & blowing up a barracks in Beirut, Lebanon that killed 70+ marines.
Its a geopolitical chess game. The cold war has ended and radical islamists are now the greatest enemies we face. Sometimes you have to make alliances with people that you normally wouldn't to battle a threat you're facing at the time. So the US aided terrorist regimes argument is paper thin too.
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Do we really need another Chernobyl incident?
Do i realy need to point out all the accadents we've had with nuclear materials? Need i mention 3 mile island? And saying that Chernobyl is something Iraq is capable of is just insane. First off there are major diffrences between Bombs and Power reactors.
Also, Sence when is the US in compliance? i have never heard of the US being inspected, EVER. Our aging storage and containment isnt working, just read around in the congressional energy reports, you'll find that were leaking lots and lots of toxic waste, neuclear in nature.
And what makes you think were not a threat? We seem to do as we please with out reguard to anyone or anything. When we want something bombed, we just do it. Im sure the innocent people in all the countries we've bombed would call us Terrorists.
We invade nations, bomb the shit out of them and figure that its whats right. What makes it right for us to go into places and invade them, but when someone else does it, we nail them.
Its funny, America feels its right to police the world and tell people what and what not they can have. I dont think we would have listened if back in the 50's the russians had said "and you cant develop hydrogen bombs because if you do, we'll sick the warsaw pact on you". But for some reason its ok for us to police the world eh?
And We do support terrorism, we support the nations of Isreal and Syria also we support Saudi Ariba. All known terrorist nations.
Relorian MaLorn
Do i realy need to point out all the accadents we've had with nuclear materials? Need i mention 3 mile island? And saying that Chernobyl is something Iraq is capable of is just insane. First off there are major diffrences between Bombs and Power reactors.
Also, Sence when is the US in compliance? i have never heard of the US being inspected, EVER. Our aging storage and containment isnt working, just read around in the congressional energy reports, you'll find that were leaking lots and lots of toxic waste, neuclear in nature.
And what makes you think were not a threat? We seem to do as we please with out reguard to anyone or anything. When we want something bombed, we just do it. Im sure the innocent people in all the countries we've bombed would call us Terrorists.
We invade nations, bomb the shit out of them and figure that its whats right. What makes it right for us to go into places and invade them, but when someone else does it, we nail them.
Its funny, America feels its right to police the world and tell people what and what not they can have. I dont think we would have listened if back in the 50's the russians had said "and you cant develop hydrogen bombs because if you do, we'll sick the warsaw pact on you". But for some reason its ok for us to police the world eh?
And We do support terrorism, we support the nations of Isreal and Syria also we support Saudi Ariba. All known terrorist nations.
Relorian MaLorn
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If America is so bad, go to Mexico.. If u dont like shit thats goin on, get the fuck out.. Poking our heads in other people's shit is NECESSARY! If we weren't so damn nosey and minded our own business, the world would be SPEAKING GERMAN.
Also, I don't look at this as we're invading Iraq.. We're just punching the leader in the mouth and cuttin his balls off.. What UN Treaty is that illegal in?? And if the UN says BAD US, who the fuck is gonna do somethin? Them pussies are AFRAID of Saddam. For *12* years he's been sayin "Bend over you guys, I'm gonna stick it in every time!" and they've been taking his shit. Please don't tell me you're a supported or Jing-Bong-Cum-Bucket, the leader of North Korea too.. We shoulda dropped nukes on him when he kidnapped soldiers on that ship (I forget specifics, I'm not exactly a history major).
I feel that the US must police the world because everyone else wants to just let shit go.. What happened with Germany when they started violating shit in the early 1940s?? PUSSY ASS FRANCE just let shit go, let shit go, let shit go, and BANG they're gettin invaded. Fuck France. If Canada started doin dumb shit they were told not to, you better believe we'd burn that maple-leaf out of the ice age. When a child touches a hot stove, you smack em. Why? So he won't do it again. When a country lets nerve gas go on its people, you kill em so they won't do it again. Simple as that.
Relorian, if you're too fuckin blind to see that all of this policing and weapon making is so you can get mommy to tuck you into bed everynight knowing you wont have anthrax and small pox comming out of your air vents at night, then get out of the country and go somewhere where they don't police the world.. You don't know how good you have it.
Also, I don't look at this as we're invading Iraq.. We're just punching the leader in the mouth and cuttin his balls off.. What UN Treaty is that illegal in?? And if the UN says BAD US, who the fuck is gonna do somethin? Them pussies are AFRAID of Saddam. For *12* years he's been sayin "Bend over you guys, I'm gonna stick it in every time!" and they've been taking his shit. Please don't tell me you're a supported or Jing-Bong-Cum-Bucket, the leader of North Korea too.. We shoulda dropped nukes on him when he kidnapped soldiers on that ship (I forget specifics, I'm not exactly a history major).
I feel that the US must police the world because everyone else wants to just let shit go.. What happened with Germany when they started violating shit in the early 1940s?? PUSSY ASS FRANCE just let shit go, let shit go, let shit go, and BANG they're gettin invaded. Fuck France. If Canada started doin dumb shit they were told not to, you better believe we'd burn that maple-leaf out of the ice age. When a child touches a hot stove, you smack em. Why? So he won't do it again. When a country lets nerve gas go on its people, you kill em so they won't do it again. Simple as that.
Relorian, if you're too fuckin blind to see that all of this policing and weapon making is so you can get mommy to tuck you into bed everynight knowing you wont have anthrax and small pox comming out of your air vents at night, then get out of the country and go somewhere where they don't police the world.. You don't know how good you have it.
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As long as I can smoke my weed, drink my 151, and pick up my paycheck every friday, the government can do whatever the fuck they want.
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:snip: Relorian, if you're too fuckin blind to see that all of this policing and weapon making is so you can get mommy to tuck you into bed everynight knowing you wont have anthrax and small pox comming out of your air vents at night, then get out of the country and go somewhere where they don't police the world.. You don't know how good you have it. :Snip:
You wanna know the facts on Small pox and antrhax.... The us government has the largest stockpiles of these and many other viral and biological agents in the world, I dont see any one claiming they wanna bomb us. And sence you pointed out the 1940's let me remind you, we tested the atomic bomb on around 10,000 soildiers to see if radiation was dangerious.
Shit, after reading your statement, im betting your a nice party voting republican. I mean god damn. We've lived with the threat of Anthrax sence 1954, and small pox sence... well sence we whipped out a nation full of indians to take this land...
You seem to think its ok to basicaly walk into a country, kill its leaders, plunge it into civil war, supply arms to one side or the other. All while stealing their oil to make the rich oil people more rich. I find something very wrong with it.
And as for how good i have it, im going to laugh for about 5 minutes on that one. Thanks to president bush, its not good. Recession, loss of the 4th 5th and 6th amendments, the threat of terrorism in responce to his ignorant decisions on "axis of evil" nations...
And as for Korea, they are not doing anything we havent done in the past, arnt doing now, and wont do in the future. I didnt see any one raise a fuss when Isreal got the bomb, now did you? No. Wanna know why? We gave it to em. So in effect, we gave terrorists a nuke.
Happly Protesting for peace,
Relorian
You wanna know the facts on Small pox and antrhax.... The us government has the largest stockpiles of these and many other viral and biological agents in the world, I dont see any one claiming they wanna bomb us. And sence you pointed out the 1940's let me remind you, we tested the atomic bomb on around 10,000 soildiers to see if radiation was dangerious.
Shit, after reading your statement, im betting your a nice party voting republican. I mean god damn. We've lived with the threat of Anthrax sence 1954, and small pox sence... well sence we whipped out a nation full of indians to take this land...
You seem to think its ok to basicaly walk into a country, kill its leaders, plunge it into civil war, supply arms to one side or the other. All while stealing their oil to make the rich oil people more rich. I find something very wrong with it.
And as for how good i have it, im going to laugh for about 5 minutes on that one. Thanks to president bush, its not good. Recession, loss of the 4th 5th and 6th amendments, the threat of terrorism in responce to his ignorant decisions on "axis of evil" nations...
And as for Korea, they are not doing anything we havent done in the past, arnt doing now, and wont do in the future. I didnt see any one raise a fuss when Isreal got the bomb, now did you? No. Wanna know why? We gave it to em. So in effect, we gave terrorists a nuke.
Happly Protesting for peace,
Relorian
Re: Navy releasing Taliban members!
Originally posted by Relorian
You wanna know the facts on Small pox and antrhax.... The us government has the largest stockpiles of these and many other viral and biological agents in the world, I dont see any one claiming they wanna bomb us. And sence you pointed out the 1940's let me remind you, we tested the atomic bomb on around 10,000 soildiers to see if radiation was dangerious.
Well guess what? We don't use anthrax and small pox on our own people. Bush doesn't subject people who oppose him to these horrible diseases, does he? No... Saddam does. Do we do tests on the antidote for these diseases?? Yes we do.. What does us testing radiaton on 10,000 soldiers have to do with us and Korea? Nothing. We didn't know radiation was dangerous. Saddam knows anthrax and nerve gases are. We didn't know radiation would kill you. Saddam knows it will kill, he just wants to see how fast. You don't like the way we run shit, go join Saddam. Live in a cave with bin Laden and dodge 10,000 lb daisycutter bombs bein dropped on ya.
Originally posted by Relorian
You seem to think its ok to basicaly walk into a country, kill its leaders, plunge it into civil war, supply arms to one side or the other. All while stealing their oil to make the rich oil people more rich. I find something very wrong with it.
Who said anything about plunging it into a civil war?? Who said anything about supplying arms to one side?? When we invade Iraq, you think we're gonna let that shit happen? Nah.. Iraq has too much shit for us after we take it over. I agree with anyone who says this is about oil, but its also about giving Saddam and OBL a well-deserved asskicking. Saddam----->:hammer:<-----US Military
I think this will be much like Afghanistan after we get done whoopin ass. We will have a military presence there and none of them dune coons will get outta line or they get shot.. That rock throwing shit doesn't fly with the US. We will help them whether they like it or not. No Saddam is a better Saddam.
Whats all this talk about Israel being terrorists? Who cares? So what, we got 1 terrorist country on our side.. big whoop.. As soon as theres 1 terrorist on their side, I'll be happy and then say theres a problem.
Heres a simple was to appease both me and Relorean I suppose. This resolution will force 0 troops from going into action and will rid the world of its 2 biggest problem (Iraq\North Korea). Here it goes...
Take 2 stealth bombers, put a few NUCLEAR BOOOOMBS on them swoop in at like 3:00 am dune time and BANG worlds 2 largest bonfires.. All done, all hands shaken. We sleep at night.
You wanna know the facts on Small pox and antrhax.... The us government has the largest stockpiles of these and many other viral and biological agents in the world, I dont see any one claiming they wanna bomb us. And sence you pointed out the 1940's let me remind you, we tested the atomic bomb on around 10,000 soildiers to see if radiation was dangerious.
Well guess what? We don't use anthrax and small pox on our own people. Bush doesn't subject people who oppose him to these horrible diseases, does he? No... Saddam does. Do we do tests on the antidote for these diseases?? Yes we do.. What does us testing radiaton on 10,000 soldiers have to do with us and Korea? Nothing. We didn't know radiation was dangerous. Saddam knows anthrax and nerve gases are. We didn't know radiation would kill you. Saddam knows it will kill, he just wants to see how fast. You don't like the way we run shit, go join Saddam. Live in a cave with bin Laden and dodge 10,000 lb daisycutter bombs bein dropped on ya.
Originally posted by Relorian
You seem to think its ok to basicaly walk into a country, kill its leaders, plunge it into civil war, supply arms to one side or the other. All while stealing their oil to make the rich oil people more rich. I find something very wrong with it.
Who said anything about plunging it into a civil war?? Who said anything about supplying arms to one side?? When we invade Iraq, you think we're gonna let that shit happen? Nah.. Iraq has too much shit for us after we take it over. I agree with anyone who says this is about oil, but its also about giving Saddam and OBL a well-deserved asskicking. Saddam----->:hammer:<-----US Military
I think this will be much like Afghanistan after we get done whoopin ass. We will have a military presence there and none of them dune coons will get outta line or they get shot.. That rock throwing shit doesn't fly with the US. We will help them whether they like it or not. No Saddam is a better Saddam.
Whats all this talk about Israel being terrorists? Who cares? So what, we got 1 terrorist country on our side.. big whoop.. As soon as theres 1 terrorist on their side, I'll be happy and then say theres a problem.
Heres a simple was to appease both me and Relorean I suppose. This resolution will force 0 troops from going into action and will rid the world of its 2 biggest problem (Iraq\North Korea). Here it goes...
Take 2 stealth bombers, put a few NUCLEAR BOOOOMBS on them swoop in at like 3:00 am dune time and BANG worlds 2 largest bonfires.. All done, all hands shaken. We sleep at night.
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Ummm Thats wouldnt be a solution i would EVER agree too. First off, YES we did know radiation was lethal, seeing as a few scientists died as of direct contact with the materials. SO we knew, and its been proven we knew and did it anyway.
Secondly, We have tested viruses and weapons of mass distruction on people before, so our hands are just as bloody if not worse.
Also, Up untill bush's support for a war in iraq fell, there was NO mentioning of ties between iraq and Osama... Only after his approval rate hit rock bottom did this come about in effort to some how justify the slaughter that will come about due to his ignorange.
As for your comment about going and living in a cave with them, Why dont you, your lust for war far outweighs your intellagence and thats exactaly what they do.
As for Afghanistan, I hate to break it to you, but were drilling oil there too. right after the war, the oil company run by Vice President chenney sent over 1.2 billion in oil equipment. So lets call a spade a spade, Bush wants more oil so his buddies can make more money, avoid more taxes and screw more people.
But then again, if you believe the propaganda that bush's propaganda department churns out, im a terrorist for seeing through his lies and sreading the one thing he hates, Truth.
Oh and I'll close with a quote from your beloved president "there ought to be limits to freedom" Yeah, real american of him.
Relorian MaLorn
Secondly, We have tested viruses and weapons of mass distruction on people before, so our hands are just as bloody if not worse.
Also, Up untill bush's support for a war in iraq fell, there was NO mentioning of ties between iraq and Osama... Only after his approval rate hit rock bottom did this come about in effort to some how justify the slaughter that will come about due to his ignorange.
As for your comment about going and living in a cave with them, Why dont you, your lust for war far outweighs your intellagence and thats exactaly what they do.
As for Afghanistan, I hate to break it to you, but were drilling oil there too. right after the war, the oil company run by Vice President chenney sent over 1.2 billion in oil equipment. So lets call a spade a spade, Bush wants more oil so his buddies can make more money, avoid more taxes and screw more people.
But then again, if you believe the propaganda that bush's propaganda department churns out, im a terrorist for seeing through his lies and sreading the one thing he hates, Truth.
Oh and I'll close with a quote from your beloved president "there ought to be limits to freedom" Yeah, real american of him.
Relorian MaLorn