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[MrBlack]

Originally posted by Xetox



I have been away from the forums for awhile





Where have you been anyway?

[Blunt]

:jerkoff: hehehe bad xetox

[zan]

We are bombin the shit out of everything, troops are moving in. President Bush should have Saddam in the oval office giving him oral while Bush destroys a nation with "democracy" and "freedom". Since France is a bunch of stinky vaginal ulsers Iraquis will never have french fries or french toast, just freedom fries and freedom toast. Its a beautiful thing to see our tax dollars at work to see some retard have nothing better to do with his time for our nation then to sit at his desk and say," Hehehe "freedom" fries are cooler then "french" fries. Lets take the rest of the day and change all the menus" Im sure he got a stiffy from thinking that all up on his own but if he ever picked up a food guide or history book hed find out that BOTH french fries AND french toast didnt originate anywhere NEAR France.



...and we wonder why the world thinks we are all idiots...

[syntax53]

personally, I think what we're doing over there is very justified. it makes me sick to see people in our country call Bush corrupt and can't wait until he's out of office, yada yada. i don't like the guy all that much either (i voted for gore) but don't call him and idiot and corrupt ... Saddam is F'ing corrupt. what he does in that country is very F'd up. he helps aid terrorists. he kills his own people. EVERYTHING he does is bad/wrong and the ONLY way to get him out of power is to force him out. the only way to rid the world of mass organized terrorists is to stop countries from harboring them. there is absoltely no plus side to having saddam hussein be in power running Iraq, NOT ONE.



If you live in America then FUCKING SUPPORT IT.



p.s. I bet if this war started 2 days after 9/11 none of you people would be bitching and moaning about it.



(sorry about that lang tox, but in the philosophy forums you gotta express your feelings)

[zan]

I think bush is doing a fine job as well, my ending remarks were not directed about him. I do feel however that Bush should not take a huge part in restoring Iraq once Saddam is overthrown. I personally do not feel that Bush can run his own country well enough to try to rebuild another so I pray that he hands most of the responsibility to the people of Iraq and also United Nations. It would be nice to see the people of Iraq be removed from oppression and if it all works out well rise up in power to be a prosperous and beautiful nation. Still with all the religious wars in the area hopefully that wont interfere with rebuilding the nation.

[Xetox]

Originally posted by Blunt

:jerkoff: hehehe bad xetox



Hey...I am just trying to keep the peace around here, and this is a touchy subject to most all of us!



I have recieved alot of complaints that the flaming has gottin out of had here again, and have been asked to please come back, so I am here and I plan on putting a stop to the BS as much as I can. So if someone thinks a am being more of a dick than norm, well then you know why!



I will allow this thread to stay open as long as we can have a nice debate without it turning into some flame battle!

[Hanover Fist]

From all the information I have been able to read on the popularity of this war, the majority of Americans support the action. As for the gripes and whines of foreign idiocy, they also have a set of their own agenda that has nothing to do with peace but with continued proffitablity and business. Do you actually think Saddam was able to build the war machine he has without french arms, german munitions, and chinese and russian armour? When our boys finish the fighting and mop up the remainder of Suddam's dictatorship those that will probaly hurt the most will be those who have lost the business contacts.

America IS the only remaining superpower and as a result of being the leader there will always be those who have envy, distain, and a misguided sence of morals for what SHOULD be done, as long as they don't have to do it. There are situations, EVEN in this great CIVILIZED world, where "might makes right", especially in the case a very basic thought, doing what's RIGHT.



When this is all said and done I think the majority of the world will be able to sit back and say this was a good thing. You will always have the whining idealists who will disagree, but where were these idealists when Saddam killed 10,000 kurds with mustard gas? Jesus has a great ideal, forgive thine enemies, thats a nice thought, but not very practical in a world where your enemies wont forgive you.



Hanover Fist

Reality is overrated...but is.......undisputable.

[Reckless]

The problem is, it's not a war. The president doesn't have the power to declare war. Although he has tried to re-write and trample on the constitution to give himself more power. Saddam is a cancer on humanity, noone can deny that. However, when we continue to push our own agenda and not allow the UN to have any credibility, we put more American lives in danger. There are going to be people that hate us, but I'd like to think that we don't try to push that number higher with actions that are questionable. We supported Iraq when they invaded Iran, yet we bomb him when he invades Kuwait. It's a little frustrating to watch hypocritical foreign policy used that doesn't benefit us. That is the purpose of our government, to act in OUR best interest. We're not the world's police, nor should we be. Fix the UN so no nation has veto power. If we say that democracy is so great, why don't we pursue it in the UN? I don't support the war w/o UN approval, but I do support our troops. God bless them and may this be handled quickly and with as little American blood as possible.



As for syntax's comment on 9/11. Most bad decisions are made in irrational and emotional states. 9/11 wasn't justification to attack Iraq. We've done every bit as much to support terrorists as Germany, Russia and France. When our troops go over and train them & when our CIA sells arms to them, it further illustrates the unjust and arbitrary rules we impose on other countries.

[Xetox]

The UN is a joke to begin with, and without us all it will do is cromble and fall! The president end the end does have the power to declare war! Yes he has to go trought the proper channels first, but end the end it is up to him to decide wether we go or not.



As far as the UN.....screw it, they know we are the world power and its about time we stand up and make the stand that we should have done along long time ago!



Rock on Bush!

[BlackHaze]

I wonder where some of you people get your information from. Hopefully not the internet.