Racism..Read, Please.

iNViSiGOD
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Post by iNViSiGOD »

Very well done, i should have sent this thread over to the Philosophy section :D But seriously, i wouldnt worry about loosing people Dxpac666, because i would do the SAME thing in your position, as long as no racist remarks are made in gossip, teleconference, or any other publically viewable area then all is good. Start offending people,you get banned or at least a warning and suspension. Face it people,and i address everyone who has posted, you cannot change a persons point of view by posting in a forum, not plausible. So dont bother bashing each other because it does no good, state your side as best as possible and hope for the best outcome. SkrewDriver and Platinum both. :cool:
Skrewdriver

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Originally posted by Platinum

I can't stand racism..just the way I am, and the way I'll always be, regardless of what anyone says or does.



However Plat, you never once bothered to approach me and try to figure out why I believe what I did. So without doing that you did blow this out of proportion. I could have explained to you and maybe have made you understand where I was coming from about some stuff, maybe not all, but some to where you might understand me better. Yes, before Psycho gave you my site address we were good friends, but to me you're still a friend, regardless of all this bullshit.

Thanks,

Skrew
iNViSiGOD
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Thats a difficult one to respond to, i have friends who feel the same way as Skrew Driver, but the thing of it is, there some of my closest friends. What do you do in that situation? :eek1:
dxpac666
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Heh I'm good. I need to change my fuckin name I'm sick of this 666 crap on the end of it.
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Post by ShroudOfStatic »

little late responding to this thread... but.. i think racism is the most empty and retarded thing you could possibly delve into... i cant subscribe to hating someone because of their race.. at all.. i admit i get angry when i keep seeing more and more mexicans in my town who dont speak english and wont learn english.. i think that's bullshit and they should learn some respect and even some of the language the people speak where they want to be..



but as far as racism.. if anyone has mudded with me before, they know i use every racist word in the book.. i try not to leave any races out.. but i really dont care what color someone is.. wish i would have been able to see this faggot's website.. the clan should be erased..
Speed
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Post by Speed »

holy shit



a little late?



A little late is missing the first course of dinner, or not making warmups for a game.
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wow, no kidding, talk about dredging up an old post. but I'm glad it was dredged up, can't believe I missed this post, soon as I get off work I'm gonna have to post a long ass reply. this topic is one I actually have alot of experience with..
iNViSiGOD
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holy shit



a little late?



A little late is missing the first course of dinner, or not making warmups for a game.





Hehe,ahyup. But its stirring interest in MMB again in doing so. So im all for it :D
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Alright folks, here ya go, part of my life story.. I was born in Conroe, Texas, you guessed it, a tiny hick town in north-eastern Texas, German mother and Native American father. My best friend was a black kid named Dart, AKA Dart the Fart to most of the neighborhood youngins, can't tell you how many fights he and I got in over that stupid nickname. Anyhow, fast forward a few years and transplanted to sunny California, 5th grade, I was jumped by a school "gang" of black kids and BRUTALLY beaten. Broken arm, nose, collarbone, concussion, for no reason but that I was white and spoke with a southern accent - Honky, Cracker, I can't even remember half the names I was called.

A year later my father was mugged by a couple of drugged up homeless black folks back in El Paso, Tx. After they'd stolen his wallet they proceeded to use whatever they found handy to beat the life out of his body. This same year, 6th grade, I was in several fights with the same black kids that had beaten me down before, sometimes I came out on top, other times I came home bleeding and broken. 7th grade, I was approached by a white kid, called himself Slaughter (after the GI Joe I think :P), who was a member of a street gang in my area called "Straight Arrows". I started hanging out with him and his compatriots all day every day, indulging in vandalism, petty theft, assault, hate crimes... juvenile hall, expelled from school, didn't really give a damn, you know the typical story.

By this time I had a shaved head, home-made swastika tattoo on my hand, and guilt building up inside, because I knew what I was doing was wrong, but I had so much hatred because of the murder of my father and the beatings I'd taken for so many years... The "Straight Arrows" had gone from petty theft to GTA, armed robbery, car-jackings, and more hate-crimes involving more than a fist and a boot..

Fast forward to a month or 2 after my 18th birthday, I started a band called Sidewalk Sandwich, a member of which was an ex-felon just out of jail in Utah for attempted murder - he'd shot a guy's ear off for not paying a hefty debt. Inside he'd gotten involved with the SAC, Skinhead Assassin Coalition, a prison gang that I guess was well known in the Utah correctional facilities. I had some tattoo work done by him - he'd learned in the joint - and was recruited at that time into the SAC. I can't say how I was recruited, cuz frankly I like my freedom, but along with the initiation came several more racist tattoos. I started hanging out with some skins in Orange County, California, going to punk shows and beating the hell out of Sharps and punks and whoever we felt like taking on, as we always rolled at least 20-25 deep. One of the parties we had a short, skinny little skin come in selling crack rock, and my band-mate was all over that shit...

In my opinion, at the time, crack was for blacks, not white people, and I lost all respect for my band-mate and his group of friends, and basically cut ties and lost communication. Wasn't easy, took a couple of moves out of state, back in, and all over California to clear my head and name, and get away from the SAC. My two sisters by this time had 3 kids apiece, from hispanic men, and I really hadn't spoken to them because of this fact. During my moves though I had to stay with one sister for quite awhile, and man, being around 3 of my nephews, I started feeling real guilty for the symbols of hatred I had on my body. I loved my nephews more than anything. So I had most of the tattoos removed, with what cash I could come up with, and the rest I covered with other tattoos, all but one..

I can't really say why I left the one, except maybe to remind myself what a dumbass I'd been.. It's not in a really visible place. I struggle still with the anger and hatred I feel inside, but I know now that I shouldn't hate a race because of what a couple low-lifes did at one time. Just this January a friend of mine and I were jumped by 15 hispanic gang bangers right outside my friend's house when we were partying one night. We both got pretty jacked up, and my initial reaction was "guns, we need guns, someone's gonna die".... but then I thought of my nephews, and I just couldn't do anything..

I can't say that I'm "cured", but goddamn I know what I've done is wrong, what I've felt and "known" is evil.. Judgement of ANY kind, whether it be against people who have their own views of race or against people of other races, is stupidity, plain and simple. I'm not a stupid person anymore.. blah, I feel all used up now hehe.. sorry about the long post guys, but on a topic I KNOW about I have to spread my opinion and my experiences.

I don't really hate anymore, but it's not like I go out of my way to associate with other races. I keep to myself, and try not to judge. anyhow, this is waaaay long enough.. I hope you guys see the change, and don't bother judging, you won't be any better than I was.
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awwww dude you usually have well organized paragraphs
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