If you edit rooms and go into extras, Unknown 1 is the death room, or the room the char gets put in after death.
Look at map 1 room 2140 (Newhaven, Village Entrance), Unknown 1 is 2190 (same as every room in newhaven). Map 1 room 2190 is the Newhaven Healer, try typing suicide in newhaven and see where ya go.
This was fairly obviuos but I thought I'd post it anyways.
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Heh, thanks http://mmb.forumshq.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile2.gif
I really was getting tired of workin on it, so some of the unknowns didn't get really the attention that they shoulda got http://mmb.forumshq.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink2.gif
I'll do an update and have it uploaded by the weekend http://mmb.forumshq.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink2.gif
I really was getting tired of workin on it, so some of the unknowns didn't get really the attention that they shoulda got http://mmb.forumshq.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink2.gif
I'll do an update and have it uploaded by the weekend http://mmb.forumshq.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink2.gif
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Man, I can completely understand. You did an awesome job with it, and you're not even charging money for it! (haha, mmedit sucked) Glad to see the maps back up too, missed 'em.
I'm also really thankful you put up the gutted files. I've been wanting to make my own mud from scratch but thats a bit more then I know how to do, so the next best thing is makin an all new realm for MajorMUD. Outta curiosity do you have a gutted message file, or know a quick way to gut it? I used ljn to delete all the spells and monsters in thier file (I'll send you a copy if you want), but the msg file has over 8,000 entries. I'm pretty sure my sanity wouldn't hold out while trying to delete each entry individually. Thanks for any ideas.
I'm also really thankful you put up the gutted files. I've been wanting to make my own mud from scratch but thats a bit more then I know how to do, so the next best thing is makin an all new realm for MajorMUD. Outta curiosity do you have a gutted message file, or know a quick way to gut it? I used ljn to delete all the spells and monsters in thier file (I'll send you a copy if you want), but the msg file has over 8,000 entries. I'm pretty sure my sanity wouldn't hold out while trying to delete each entry individually. Thanks for any ideas.
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I wouldn't mind the gutted files that you made. I only included the ones I did because those are just the ones I did at the time...just email me (use the link from the page, i think this one is a dead email addy)
As for the message file...Does Nightmare do messages? If so, that would be the faster way of doing it...even with NM it took me 2-3 hours to gut the map file...and that was sitting in front of the computer, on the floor, turned around facing the tv with keyboard in lap pressing ctrl+d almost nonstop hehe
As for the message file...Does Nightmare do messages? If so, that would be the faster way of doing it...even with NM it took me 2-3 hours to gut the map file...and that was sitting in front of the computer, on the floor, turned around facing the tv with keyboard in lap pressing ctrl+d almost nonstop hehe
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The gutted files are in the mail. Gutted everything except the map and the items, which you had graciously already done. I used nightmare for the message file and it went by pretty quick, was surprised how fast I could delete shit smackin down both enter keys as quick as possible.
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Chronic @ April 18 2002,14:23
(haha, mmedit sucked)
Oh yeah, it sucked so bad.. _considering it was the only fucking editor that worked, I'd say that's a pretty good slap in the face for your "mmedit sucked" comment.
Eat shit wannabe.
(haha, mmedit sucked)
Oh yeah, it sucked so bad.. _considering it was the only fucking editor that worked, I'd say that's a pretty good slap in the face for your "mmedit sucked" comment.
Eat shit wannabe.
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depends on which version you are talking about... 2k sucks... only good for a few things.. i would call it a player editor more than anything else.. sure as hell aint editing anything else with it... nightmare is best for everything except rooms... use ljn (majordum) for rooms..
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Panterra X @ June 22 2002,03:54
depends on which version you are talking about... 2k sucks... only good for a few things.. i would call it a player editor more than anything else.. sure as hell aint editing anything else with it... nightmare is best for everything except rooms... use ljn (majordum) for rooms..
Shrug, 2000 never got completed (but then most people know why that was). MMEDIT/DOS is hands down better than anything else out there though. I even wrote a DB compiler that created a fresh WCCUPDAT.DAT, but never released it because all the stuff with MMEDIT 2000 was happening around that time. I had a similar util finished for MMEDIT 2000 (it was built-in), but as I said.. people decided to take the beta and give it away (people who paid for it, which for me was very strange-- why pay so much for something if you're willing to shit it all away and ruin it for yourself as well?).
But from the point of view of 'who figured out what', myself and Flint of FUMMUD fame did most of the hard work on that. Everybody else basically copied our work (and in the case of Flint, I'm willing to bet that the authors of the other editors probably grabbed his GPL'd source code and used the structures out of that rather than figuring it out themselves; regardless, it's far easier to figure something out when you have other utils to compare against). Flint and I didn't have anything to work with but the raw files themselves.
So the no-talent llama part sticks. Hell, it's been 7 months since mod-9 was released and there STILL isn't an editor for it. Meanwhile, I've got a copy of MMEDIT/DOS that'll work with 1.11h and above. Pathetic.
depends on which version you are talking about... 2k sucks... only good for a few things.. i would call it a player editor more than anything else.. sure as hell aint editing anything else with it... nightmare is best for everything except rooms... use ljn (majordum) for rooms..
Shrug, 2000 never got completed (but then most people know why that was). MMEDIT/DOS is hands down better than anything else out there though. I even wrote a DB compiler that created a fresh WCCUPDAT.DAT, but never released it because all the stuff with MMEDIT 2000 was happening around that time. I had a similar util finished for MMEDIT 2000 (it was built-in), but as I said.. people decided to take the beta and give it away (people who paid for it, which for me was very strange-- why pay so much for something if you're willing to shit it all away and ruin it for yourself as well?).
But from the point of view of 'who figured out what', myself and Flint of FUMMUD fame did most of the hard work on that. Everybody else basically copied our work (and in the case of Flint, I'm willing to bet that the authors of the other editors probably grabbed his GPL'd source code and used the structures out of that rather than figuring it out themselves; regardless, it's far easier to figure something out when you have other utils to compare against). Flint and I didn't have anything to work with but the raw files themselves.
So the no-talent llama part sticks. Hell, it's been 7 months since mod-9 was released and there STILL isn't an editor for it. Meanwhile, I've got a copy of MMEDIT/DOS that'll work with 1.11h and above. Pathetic.
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yah u got props for the dos version... and ya i remember what all went down... and know why 2k was never finished... and i didnt talk any smack to begin with but none of that changes the facts... nm is best for everything but players... and everyone with win is stuck with ljn to make updates...
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Originally posted by Locke Cole
Hell, it's been 7 months since mod-9 was released and there STILL isn't an editor for it. Meanwhile, I've got a copy of MMEDIT/DOS that'll work with 1.11h and above.
Yeah, only because your such a cheap-ass prick that got all pissy because someone didn't wanna pay 100 bux for your editor. You still work on it, and say you don't like us. You'r on this board bashin us, when you haven't done shit in the community since Metro threw your ideas out the window and gave you a spankin for all of your hard work.
Piss of and eat shit fuknut. You are far from the druid player i had idolized long ago. Your ego and arrogance are amazingly undeflated in the years since I first heard of you.
Hell, it's been 7 months since mod-9 was released and there STILL isn't an editor for it. Meanwhile, I've got a copy of MMEDIT/DOS that'll work with 1.11h and above.
Yeah, only because your such a cheap-ass prick that got all pissy because someone didn't wanna pay 100 bux for your editor. You still work on it, and say you don't like us. You'r on this board bashin us, when you haven't done shit in the community since Metro threw your ideas out the window and gave you a spankin for all of your hard work.
Piss of and eat shit fuknut. You are far from the druid player i had idolized long ago. Your ego and arrogance are amazingly undeflated in the years since I first heard of you.