Need help ASAP! This is major wierd

[BaBar]

--I also posted this thread in the Nightmare forum, before I saw the Majormud/Worldgroup forum......





I'm brand new to these forums and I wasn't sure where I should post this thread. I had just reset my game of mud and then downloaded and installed Nightmare for the first time. When I opened up Nightmare (the beta version) the first time my Worldgroup server was up and running and it caused me to get a btreive 20 error (or something like that). I closed Nightmare and restarted Worldgroup and I kept getting the btrieve error. I would also get this btrieve error when I would try to start the MajorMud ultilities. So I ended up deleting Worldgroup, Nightmare, and MajorMUD off of my harddrive and reinstalling everything again. I havern't tried running Nightmare while Worldgroup is running again for fear of getting another btrieve error, but now I am getting some much more messed up. I reset my game, made a character and went into the game to find that everything is *ucked. Rooms are whacked, theres money laying everywhere, there was limited items laying on the ground, there was the iceforge anvil in ts, lots of screwed up stuff. I've posted a capture of some of the stuff I'm witnessing at the bottom of this thread. I have deleted and reset my mud game over and over to see if I could get rid of this, but it keeps happening. I'm running v1.11i+patch and I've tried going into the game with just h installed, etc, and I keep finding my realm *ucked. If someone knows what's going on or can help, please do. I'm not sure what is going on, but everything was fine and dandy until I installed Nightmare.



Thanks

BaBar



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Name: Howdy Doody Lives/CP: 9/100

Race: Human Exp: 0 Perception: 40

Class: Warrior Level: 1 Stealth: 0

Hits: 30/30 Armour Class: 0/0 Thievery: 0

Traps: 0

Picklocks: 0

Strength: 40 Agility: 40 Tracking: 0

Intellect: 40 Health: 40 Martial Arts: -3

Willpower: 40 Charm: 40 MagicRes: 40

[HP=30]:



Also here: small giant rat.

Obvious exits: north, south, east, west, northeast, northwest,

southeast, southwest, up, down

[HP=30]:what the fuck

You say "what the fuck"

[HP=30]:l n

A angry giant rat creeps into the room from nowhere.



lage Entrance anding at the crude wooden gates of the of a dusty path. A

low wooden palisade ct against creatures of the night and

Also here: small giant rat, angry giant rat.

Obvious exits: north, south, east, west, northeast, northwest,

southeast, southwest, up, down



[HP=30]:n

You are not permitted in that room!

[HP=30]:sys goto sil

[HP=30]:



You notice 196608 platinum pieces, 4 gold crowns, pipe here.

Obvious exits: north, south, east, west, northeast, northwest,

southeast, southwest, up, down

[HP=30]:l n



of the Dead rely illuminated by the many torches to stretch on forever.

Many marble s about the room, some of them bearing

You notice 196608 platinum pieces, 4 gold crowns, pipe here.

Obvious exits: north, south, east, west, northeast, northwest,

southeast, southwest, up, down

[HP=30]:sys goto new

[HP=30]:



You notice 131072 platinum pieces here.

Also here: large giant rat.

Obvious exits: north, south, east, west, southeast, southwest,

up, down

[HP=30]:growl

You growl.

[HP=30]:

Newhaven, Arena

You notice 131072 platinum pieces here.

Also here: large giant rat.

Obvious exits: closed door north, up

[HP=30]:wtf, now all of a sudden the room has changed

You say "wtf, now all of a sudden the room has changed"

[HP=30]:u

Newhaven, Narrow Road

This narrow road is quite plain save for the various lanterns hanging from

the trees around, and a large stone stairwell leading downwards. You hear the

clash of steel below you, and cries of pain and triumph accompanying it. Stone

buildings lie to your north and west, and the path angles into the forest to

the southwest.

You notice full plate corselet here.

Also here: large giant rat.

Obvious exits: north, east, west, southwest, down

[HP=30]:sys goto new

[HP=30]:

Newhaven, Arena

You notice 131072 platinum pieces here.

Also here: large giant rat.

Obvious exits: closed door north, up

[HP=30]:sys goto sil

[HP=30]:

Temple, Halls of the Dead

You notice 196608 platinum pieces, 4 gold crowns, pipe here.

Obvious exits: up

[HP=30]:u

You hear movement above you!

Temple Healer

The hall's lofty roof is supported by graceful soaring archways, and the

walls are crafted of white marble run through with silver streaks. There is a

priest waiting here to heal the wounded. She smiles kindly at you as you

enter. A small bowl of silver nobles stands on the table she sits behind, and

you can see it is nearly full. A stone stairwell descends into the catacombs

of the temple at the rear of this room, and you can exit into the main hall to

the south.

You notice 196608 platinum pieces, 4 gold crowns here.

Also here: giant rat, wounded messenger.

Obvious exits: south, down

[HP=30]:quiet

Quiet mode set

[HP=30]:s

Temple Hall

Also here: giant rat.

Obvious exits: north, south, east, west

[HP=30]:e

Temple Foyer

You notice skull mask here.

Also here: giant rat.

Obvious exits: east, west

[HP=30]:e

Intersection of Temple St. & Stone St.

You notice 196608 platinum pieces here.

Also here: nasty giant rat.

Obvious exits: north, south, east, west

[HP=30]:e

Temple Street

Also here: big giant rat.

Obvious exits: north, east, west

[HP=30]:e

Temple Street

You notice full plate corselet here.

Also here: thin giant rat.

Obvious exits: south, east, west

[HP=30]:e

Temple Street

Also here: giant rat.

Obvious exits: east, west

[HP=30]:e

You hear movement to the east.

You hear movement to the east.

Temple Street, Eastern End

You notice 196608 platinum pieces, full plate corselet here.

Also here: big giant rat, guardsman, large guardsman.

Obvious exits: north, south, east, west

[HP=30]:e

You hear movement to the east.

You hear movement to the east.

You hear movement to the east.

Town Square

You notice 196608 platinum pieces, iceforge anvil here.

Also here: Mayor Godfrey, Templar, thin guardsman.

Obvious exits: north, south, east, west

A tall guardsman walks into the room from the east.

[HP=30]:

Town Square

You notice 196608 platinum pieces, iceforge anvil here.

Also here: Mayor Godfrey, Templar, thin guardsman, tall guardsman.

Obvious exits: north, south, east, west

Children rush past you hopping around in youthful glee.

w

Temple Street, Eastern End

You notice 196608 platinum pieces, full plate corselet here.

Also here: big giant rat, guardsman, large guardsman.

Obvious exits: north, south, east, west

[HP=30]:w

Temple Street

Also here: giant rat.

Obvious exits: east, west

[HP=30]:w

Temple Street

You notice full plate corselet here.

Also here: thin giant rat.

Obvious exits: south, east, west

[HP=30]:s

You hear movement to the south.

Lucky Strike Casino

You notice 196608 platinum pieces, yellow parchment deed here.

Also here: large drunken gambler.

Obvious exits: north, south

[HP=30]:

Lucky Strike Casino

You notice 196608 platinum pieces, yellow parchment deed here.

Also here: large drunken gambler.

Obvious exits: north, south

[HP=30]:sys goto support

[HP=30]:

Sysop Support Chamber

You notice 65536 platinum pieces, 85 gold crowns here.

Obvious exits: up

[HP=30]:u

Module Test Room

You notice 85 gold crowns, scalemail tunic, brigandine tunic, grey robes,

rigid leather tunic, amethyst ring here.

Obvious exits: north, south, east, west, northeast, northwest,

southeast, southwest, up, down

[elpresidente]

have you tried just installing wg then mud and checking out the realm b4 you try anything on it, if the problem is still there id guess that you got a currupted or already edited mud dll if thats the case try dl a version of mud from i think it might be panterra x's ftp or someones i cant remember where i got mine but its ok cept that someone has changed the dll or something that the platinum mace is in the middle of the dragons i believe but other than that its all good.

[BaBar]

I haven't even done anything to mud through Nightmare yet. Sure, I looked at the database through Nightmare, but I didn't make any changes. How could I have a corrupted or already edited mud dll? I legitimatly own Majormud and Worldgroup and am installing from the files I've downloaded from Metropolis and WG. I'm guessing that whatever is wrong is something with Nightmare (downloaded it off of sourceforge) because I'm installing from the same files I've always used before their was problems. Oh, am running v1.11ipatch NT, mods 1-9

[Demonic]

i *think* the problem is, you are running 1.11h. this version was fucked from the beginning. if you are going to run it, thats fine, but the problem with the crap all over will clean up as soon as the database update is finished. (after the first time you start the realm..just stand there in the realm and watch the WG log and it will tell you when it completes.) after that, take the board down and run a floor sweep. that will clean up all the crap laying around, except for all the bullshit stuff like the iceforge anvil at TS. your best bet is to d/l a copy of 1.11i and find the patch that accompanies it. (look for a post from Lord Soth, he has them both on his FTP site..link is in his sig.)



as for the errors, i dont think nightmare caused these. once you get the board stable, install nightmare into it own directory (do not put it in WG directory) copy all the wcc*.* DATS from the WG directory to the nightmare directory. load up nightmare, it will give you errors the first time you run it..just keep clicking ok to proceed. then shut it down. the next time you load it, you wont get any errors.



make all your edits from nightmare, DO A DATABASE COMPILE. close out nightmare. copy the wccupda2 from the nightmare directory to the WG directory. load up WG, enter the realm, and let it do its update. (you will not notice any of your changes until after the update is completely installed).



thats the way i do my edits and i dont have any problems anymore. if that dont work, let us know (in the correct forum of course)

[dxpac666]

If you don't have nightmare in your WG directory, you need to tell it which directory your files are in too, don't forget that one. I do my edits on the dats that are being read from the WG directory. Helps when doing rooms so things don't poof when you put in the new room dat and things that were dropped after your last update will disappear cuz they're not in your "backup" dat. I don't know if I made sense. But whatever works for ya. I think it really only matters for people who do tons of room updates like I do.

[BaBar]

Well, I'm running 1.11ipatch



Nightmare is in it's own default directory. And I haven't even made any changes yet with Nightmare, am only using it as a viewer so far. If I could just get mud back to the way it was before (normal), I'll be happy

[iNViSiGOD]

*NOTE* Whenever installing a realm for the first time, make sure to install worldgroup to a directory like C:\worldgroup then install your MajorMUD realm. 3rd, startup the server and sit in majormud until its done initializing (if you dont do this you will have problems). Once all is kosher, exit and shutdown the server then install Nightmare to its default directory. It will prompt you to direct it to where worldgroup is installed (dont install it to your worldgroup directory). Load up nightmare again. The BTRIEVE 20 error i believe links to the file GALBCLS.DLL

[drcorey]

I have the 1.11i dbase fix on my bbs.

tsgc.dyndns.org

[syntax53]

Originally posted by Demonic

as for the errors, i dont think nightmare caused these. once you get the board stable, install nightmare into it own directory (do not put it in WG directory) copy all the wcc*.* DATS from the WG directory to the nightmare directory. load up nightmare, it will give you errors the first time you run it..just keep clicking ok to proceed. then shut it down. the next time you load it, you wont get any errors.



if you copy the dats to the nightmare directory, just shutting it down and restarting it won't do anything. you can put that dat's anywhere you want. just go into the settings and set the dat path.



Originally posted by BaBar

I haven't even done anything to mud through Nightmare yet. Sure, I looked at the database through Nightmare, but I didn't make any changes. How could I have a corrupted or already edited mud dll?



nightmare saves the current record when you switch records (it says this in the general help). NMR wouldn't be corrupting your databases unless you are using dat's that are already corrupted or were not converted to the new mod9 format correctly (this is why i suggested just installing v1.11i fresh in the other thread you posted about this).



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when I do my tests with nightmare I never just copy the wccupda2.dat into the bbs to have it update. it's still unclear as to what that actually does. we know when the update runs though it doesn't delete records from that real dats that aren't in the update.dat. i always edit the dats sitting in the wg directory.



-syntax

[Demonic]

the reason i copy all the dats into the nightmare directory is so i can do edits while the board is up and running. i always update by copying the wccupda2 and i never have preoblems, as long as i let it run thru the entire update before trying to see any changes. i also have a backup copy of all my wcc*.* files in a complete seperate directory, as well as a backup of the wccupda2 that is the last working file i compliled. just as a safeguard. yeah, it seems like alot of work, but when you do alot of edits, like i am in the process of, and something goes wrong, i dont want to lose all my work. i may be taking the long way around things, but my board runs stable, and i very rarely see errors of any kind. someday, when i get all my edits in line and quests working like i want them to, im gonna open it up and you can all check it out. but until then, its just me running around checkin all the bullshit.