I just had this idea..

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Re: I just had this idea..

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Originally posted by elpresidente

i was thinking while u guys were saying about mystics, why not add the tag to a pair of brass knuckles or clawed gloves?



wouldnt it work the same way?



upon the hit, while wearing brass knuckles, ability added to other player



Good thought, but no. Brass knuckles, clawed gloves, curved fang, ect. aren't really weapons, they just modify damage similar to the way a belt of might does.



It used to be that a weapon's special attack would hit while mystics were using martial arts, but after some so-called uproar from the players Metro changed it. Apparently a mystic having the golden sickle's rip spell go off occasionally while punching was so overpowered it required a change in the combat engine, but a 16-42 damage 2000 speed sword is okay.



On a similar note, they've fixed elemental resistances in 1.11j so they stack. And I swear this is true, Metro changed storm giants' lightning shot attack to be non-elemental instead of lightning elemental. Their reason? "People were bitching because it was red and making it non-elemental makes it blue." I think some people actually bought it, too. Yeah, I know lots of people that want a 5 mill an hour spot to become unscriptable so that a spell that nobody EVER uses will be a different color. Man, trying to understand Metro makes my head hurt.
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Re: I just had this idea..

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what about a use gloves on person or an automatic that goes like that when pvp is engaged?
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Re: I just had this idea..

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Originally posted by elpresidente

what about a use gloves on person or an automatic that goes like that when pvp is engaged?



Can't have any kind of automatic, but you could make a use gloves sort of thing... The problem is, if you've got the jump on someone then that's more time warning them because of the message. And if there's no message to it, some asshole mystic could use it on someone without really attacking, and the person wouldn't know they were flagged. If the mystic is the one being jumped, wasting time using a spell could be fatal. It also would require sacrificing the ability to cast a real spell that round. Hypnotic hands, winged sandals, things of that nature. Which could also be fatal. Mystics are just a pain in the ass.
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Re: I just had this idea..

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hmm i see, so i guess you could only do it as a weapon thing then.

what about if u gave the mystic class itself the ability? cos that would require someone to be hit wouldnt it? and then u could make it so it doesnt stack or something? or create a message that the user has been tagged?
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Re: I just had this idea..

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then when it runs out you could have another one saying you can return to normal gaming or something that would eliminate people from running through the rooms u say u die in till they know its safe, also could make the tag get removed when the user dies. prevent rerolling as mentioned back in the post somewhere
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Re: I just had this idea..

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Originally posted by elpresidente

hmm i see, so i guess you could only do it as a weapon thing then.

what about if u gave the mystic class itself the ability? cos that would require someone to be hit wouldnt it? and then u could make it so it doesnt stack or something? or create a message that the user has been tagged?



You mean make add the cast spell when hits flag onto the class? Haven't tried that in a few versions, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't work... has to be on an actual weapon.



As for most of the other questions, it'd automatically be that way because it's a spell. The same spell won't stack on itself, and it would automatically remove itself when someone dies. And if the punishment isn't death, the text block could just cast another spell that kills the first one when it does whatever it's set to do.
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Re: I just had this idea..

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Didn't read the whole thread, just wanted to mention that if you PvP'ed in khaz or rhudaur the sys trigger spell would go off and kill ya :)
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Re: I just had this idea..

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Originally posted by Tsunami

Didn't read the whole thread, just wanted to mention that if you PvP'ed in khaz or rhudaur the sys trigger spell would go off and kill ya :)



Been addressed. Workaround's fairly easy by replacing those rooms in the city with new ones exactly the same, and making the old ones where you'd warp to no exit rooms that cast a spell linking to a text block. Text block checks for the flag, if not found, warps you to the new room.
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