Pledge of Allegiance

[War Hawk]

Quote You Gotta be Fucking Kidding Me

No seriously, any minute now it's going to come out how last month, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in California ruled that April Fools Day would officially be moved from April 1st to June 26th, and yesterday's BULLSHIT 2-1 ruling declaring the Pledge of Allegiance as unconstitutional was a just one big knee-slapper.

I mean it's the only rational fucking explanation for what's going on, right? I mean how else can you explain how one cranked out judge whose robe is obviously stretched a little too tight around his neck, undo 110 years of people swearing allegiance to their flag and their country?

In a word, it won't. Be serious people, this is not going to stand. The judges that made the decision? I'd be pretty comfortable that these judge's future career plans hold something to the effect of traffic court in the likes of Asshole, Arkansas. Bush has already declared the ruling, "ridiculous", The House already marched out on the steps of Capitol hill yesterday and recited the Pledge in front of the country, the Senate is promising it'll intervene and you know the folks in the Supreme Court are already dusting off their gavels for the overturning even as you ready this.

Don't believe me, here's some words from someone down in the trenches...

At 1025 PM 6/26/2002, Chris wrote:

Ernie,

I'm currently a police officer out her in California and I wanted to give you some info on the recent ruling keeping the pledge out of the classroom. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals is considered one of the most liberal in the country. Most cops out here call it "the ninth circus".

Anyway, I wouldn't take any rulings they hand down too seriously, they normally get overturned.

thanks,

Chris



In his famous "Tree of Liberty" letter of 1787, Thomas Jefferson wrote, "...the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is it's natural manure."

I now, in this year of 2002 (Of our Lord! write to you a letter that will follow these same steps into the pages of our history books. "... the tree of common sense must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of political correctness and stupid ass parents. It's even better manure than blood."

See this is a bullshit ruling, everyone knows it's a bullshit ruling (must have adobe), and everyone knows that as a bullshit ruling it's not going to stand. I don't think it's going to make the end of the week.

But that's not the point.

The point is this never should have made its way into the court system, where some pansy ass judge can tiptoe around his responsibilities and use the convenient existence of the word "God" as an escape hatch to avoid doing what's right instead of what's politically correct. The right thing to do, for you liberal fucks too stupid to get it, would be to tell people to quit whining like a bunch of high heeled pussies because we've got more important things to address right now as a nation.

Everyone's up in arms over this, but I want to ask this question -- who's the stupid motherfucker who even challenged it as unconstitutional to begin with? Who? I'll tell you.

The case had been filed against the United States, Congress, California, two school districts and its officials by Michael Newdow, an atheist whose daughter attends public school in Elk Grove, California, just outside Sacramento. His daughter wasn't required to say the pledge, so instead of just telling his daughter to sit quietly while others around her say the Pledge -- much like some students did even when I graduated high school over ten years ago -- this fuckhead is going to piss in the pool for the rest of us because he's got some axe to grind.

"Ooooh! it has the word 'God' in it." -- Well cry me a fucking river, Mike you candy ass.

I'm an atheist and I get pissed off when people try to push their religious bullshit on me and I gladly say the Pledge of Allegiance, "...one nation, under God..." and all. I challenge you Mr. Michael "I probably just doomed my daughter to a daily life of persecution at school" Newdow, to give up your life savings...everything... your savings and checking accounts, your retirement, your mortgage, your credit cards, even the cash in your fucking pocket... after all money does read, 'In God We Trust" and surely you can't have that.

But you won't you hypocritical fuck.

Personally, I hope this guys neighbors burn his fucking house down, his boss fires him from his job, his wife dies of a heart attack while fucking the mailman the night before this daughter's wedding, and he spends the remainder of his years a broken shell of a man living out of a cardboard box in a fucking alley somewhere in downtown Los Angeles where local drug dealers force him at gunpoint to give blowjobs to their customers as part of an Drugdealer Extra Value Meal. And the last fucking thing he hears before the Grim Reaper comes to take his poisoned blackened soul, are the delicate voices of schoolchildren drifting down from a nearby window, reciting the Pledge of Allegiance. Cocksucker.

I pledge allegiance to the flag,

of the United States of America,

and to the Republic for which it stands,

one nation under God, indivisible,

with liberty and justice for all.

My grandparents said it, my parents said it, I've said it, and my children and their children will damn well say it too.

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This is from Ernie's House of Whoopass....

Talk about some FUCKED UP people in the United States..

[MrBlack]

This time last year, I would have agreed with he ruling of unconstitutional...actually, I kinda still do...but my beliefs concerning God have also changed since then.

Religion and governemnt hsould be seperated...but then I opened my eyes one day and realized that both of t hem were the same, they just hid behind different things...government uses 'laws' religion uses 'god'

But...now I saw, IF governement could be redone to somethign better, it should incorporate god...(if you've been following some of the philosohpy threads) God is everything...and to exclude god from anything is impossible

Just my opinion....

[Speed]

Who the fuck cares? I'm atheist, I said the pledge. If I didn't feel like saying it that morning, I held my hand to my chest and paid respect to our nation. Just because it has the word god in it doesn't mean shit. Look at all those stupid billboards that say "God." on them. Can anyone do anything about that? No. You know why? Because nobody cares. It doesn't influence anything. And if your an atheist, and you are upset that your daughter might believe in God, your one sick mother fucker. It's your daughter and she has the right to make her own decisions. I have known plenty of people who are only surviving today because of their newfound or oldfound belief in God. God damnit, this nation is fucking retarded, but I still pay respect to it no matter what the circumstances. Damn. That was a lot of typing. Off to smoke another bowl.

[Tristian]

Ok, one small point to make..

The line that says.. to keep state and church seperate.. was not intended to keep the church out of the state.. it was to keep the state of of the church.. thus a big reason a lot of ppl originally settled in the America's to escape the state saying you must be this religion.. do this style of worship.. read your history and you will find I am correct.

[Dark]

Well I have respect for other religions or beliefs so if I say anthing that will offend, im sorry in advance

Its like this, the constitution and this country was based on the belief of God.

The way I see it, is that a small majority of people are complaining about it so why listen to that majority.

Hasnt it always been majority rules?

Also, I thought it was a GOOD point brought up about how when we say the pledge its not just to give praise to God for this great country but its also to show our loyality TO this great country