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First, let me say this is a legit board. Not "hasn't been hexed" legit, but as in "paid for" legit. So it's none of the usual stuff here. I'm rather stumped by it though. Here's the problems..



1. We're having unusual crashes. Like once every week or so, it crashes. Sometimes twice a day, sometimes it's fine for 2 weeks. I've questioned the whole realm, and we can't find a single thing in common with the crashes. One time it happened almost the entire board was sitting in TS waiting for a mage to log on so we could go to the Dreadlord. We'd been there for like two hours. Nobody was so much as casting blur.

2. Until the last crash sent the game into recovery mode to delete them, there were 2 "old man" in the Silvermere guild. That's bad. A placed limit 1 monster.

3. You notice 84 hideous face here. Then a while later they're gone.

4. Some monsters are just... whacky. We've had the mirror portal stay open for DAYS, and sometimes it'll close in 15 minutes like it's suppose to. It actually seems to close shortly after being used sometimes. I've seen the thing sit there for a day and a half... and I go through it with my bard, and I get there with my paladin like 2 minutes later and it's closed. Not too long ago we went to the Dark Mage and we had him REAL low and he necro stormed us. Considering the amount of people, he absorbed about 2000 hp. We all hung and warped to Arlysia because when he storms, it's over. We go back the next day... and he drops after 2k damage. He never healed naturally. He's never done that before or since.

5. This could be luck, but I doubt it... We've had an extraordinary amount of mithril earrings regen. We're talking like 3 in the span of a week or something. I actually bought one, scripted barren hills, came back the next day and there was another pair. And no, we hadn't crashed in between so it's not a matter of the file not saving that I bought them. This lasted for a while, and after we got about 9 or 10 sets it stopped regenning them like crazy and the store went back to normal.



Some of this is cool and all, but the crashes have cost many of us gear. We've had everything from the platinum ring to the Darkbane poof because of the crashes. Storm crown, platinum ring/bracers, platinum plate, ect.... it'd take us YEARS to get everything back even if it was possible. Multiple 5% drops from a 100 hr regen? Multiple 1% drops from a once a day? That's just not gonna happen.* And frankly the hideous face thing and the old man thing concern me because I've seen people say they had to reset a while after that because mud got so fucked up.



And so, since Metro is incompetent and their answer is usually "reset" I'm hoping somebody here knows what the hell is going on. I've heard people say database problems, but unless it's the update file that doesn't make sense... there's problems with monsters, items, shops, many different databases. I doubt they'd all go... I don't know... fucky at once. So has anybody seen this kinda thing before? Or know how to fix it?



*Yes, I know you can put everything on first kill by replacing the wccknmsr.dat/wccknms2.dat file... but I doubt our sysop is gonna be wanting to do that constantly, and after a few times it tends to kill the sys list lim command.

when close.com resetted i noticed quite often that they had two old man's in the guild.



this is a free legit board. well, there is some speculation on whether they are truly legit or not, but they are not openly hexed and have a lot of users.



so they've been up almost three months with the two old man's (not sure if they are there now but they were in the past).. no major problems i can tell.

Lol.... if its a free legit board, can't they post this kinda stuff on the SYSOP forum for Metro?? Sounds to me like you got some hosed dats and since you "Paid for it" Metro would more than likely love to help you with this... there is a strong chance that you need to re-install mud. also try an offline recovery... sometimes that fixes the issue... not the auto-recovery....



just my 1 cent.... cuz 2 is too much right now!

Before Atma flips his lid and flames you for can't they post this kinda stuff on the SYSOP forum for Metro?? I'll just add that he said And so, since Metro is incompetent and their answer is usually "reset" I'm hoping somebody here knows what the hell is going on



I'm not sure what the problem is Atma, I've never seen anything like that really. Metro's answer would probably be the best option though, even though resetting sucks. The only other alternative to resetting I can think of is to back up the dats, install fresh dats, and copy over the bankbooks and user files. He could also try checking the file sizes of the original dats and the dats they are running now. If there is an original item file of say 10000 and the file you are running is 9888 (random numbers), that wouldn't be right since nothing should be editing the item file. That can be checked on all files except for the user/shop files. The item/monster files are the only ones that really matter though, that's probably where the problem lies.

just so ya know, atma, i PAYED for my board as well.

Originally posted by War Hawk

Lol.... if its a free legit board, can't they post this kinda stuff on the SYSOP forum for Metro??



First of all, that's the board Sean mentioned. Second of all, the mudop did. I'm not so sure about the advice of people that said the hydra was easier than the fallen angel, though. I've seen Metro give bad advice a sickening number of times. Their answer is "reset, reset, reset." It just makes it easier on them. And well, since I know there's a lot of guys here that pride themselves on knowing WAY too much about this game (not knockin' ya, I'm one of them) I figured it'd be worth asking here.





Originally posted by War Hawk

Sounds to me like you got some hosed dats and since you "Paid for it" Metro would more than likely love to help you with this...



*sigh* I didn't pay for it. I never said I was the sysop. I'm not even a mudop. It's a VERY old pay board, and considering several of Metro's own lackies used to play there, I'm quite sure the quotes there are unnecessary. The problem is, Metro often takes weeks or even months to respond about even the simplest thing. This would make their tiny brains explode and after they unfortunately survived that, they'd take the easy route and say "reset" like they always do.



Originally posted by Speed

The only other alternative to resetting I can think of is to back up the dats, install fresh dats, and copy over the bankbooks and user files.



Yeah, I was thinking about that before... Thing is, I'm not sure how well that'd work either. I remember the topten is kept in a different file, and it tends to spaz out if it and the user files don't match. I don't know what else might go wrong either since I've never tried anything like that. I guess it's worth a shot if worst comes to worst though.

wccgang2.dat is the gang dat perhaps? Not totally sure on that so don't quote me.

this is to the person about ce.... it is an edited board but its just the sysop's char though and a few other things as well