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Re: new rules...................................
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2003 1:44 pm
by Aragon
Originally posted by Rust In Peace
No, not really. Enforcing rules isn't a power trip. A power trip is singling out people who say things about you that you may not like. (like just about everything Atma said was true and everyone who's read it, knows it) Oh, since you were wondering, I have been taught to respect those who actually respect others. You should maybe try to do the same instead of sitting at your computer with your finger hovering over the ban button.
woah thats interesting because the rules weren't made to single out anyone.. Did you happen to read them? If you did you would have noticed no names mentioned. Did you see me name out anyone on this thread?... woah no... Who began with the flaming.. Damn it was Atma! So when I tell him to stop his crap, that's singling him out?
Did I say anything to you before you decided to jump your intelligent behind in here? No.....
So how am I singling out people? Oh wait.. first people flame, then I say stop... then Atma begins and I tell him to stop specifically. Yep I singled him out. Then you begin your garbage and I tell you to shut up... and that's singling you out. I guess you can look at it that way. Then again you can say that you singled yourself out. Are you and Atma competing for #1 jackass award?
Re: new rules...................................
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2003 1:51 pm
by Rust In Peace
Heh, naw.. all I was saying is that Atma didn't exactly insult or "flame" anyone per se... Sure he came looking for a fight, but he was mostly civil imo. Neither did I really.. We were just writing down our observations. Is that allowed?
Re: new rules...................................
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2003 1:58 pm
by The Ghost
OK I have a GREAT IDEA.. Why doesn't everyone just stop your damn bitching and get on with it. If you like the rules then you will follow them, if you don't then DONT COME BACK. We don't care. If you don't like the rules more than likely we dont like you. If Aragon wants rules here he can have them and I must agree with him there is way too much damn spamming and flaming going on in this forum. I remember when I first came to this forum there was ACTUAL mud talk about BOARDS and HELP ME, I'M STUPID. Now all you ever see is people flamming people.. You all should get a life..
Aragon I say you start deleting/banning the morons who dont want to follow the rules, and I also say you should lock this thread.
Thats my 2 cents and if you dont like it, I dont give a fuck.
Re: new rules...................................
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:01 pm
by Rust In Peace
The F-word isn't a tv word. Kinda hypocritical of you to tell others to follow rules and then turn around and curse.
Re: new rules...................................
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:04 pm
by The Ghost
Thats right I did use the F word. And you know what, honestly if I did break the rules then sue me/ban me/ whatever.. I at least know that I did it when I was defending the rules. I don't argue the fact that they are there and I probably haven't read them but I already know I haven't broken near as many as you have. All you do Rust is generally flame I have never ONCE seen you help someone who is trying to setup a bbs, or even helped someone who needed help with a place to script. Now then I am out of here. Adios Seniorita.
Re: new rules...................................
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:07 pm
by Rust In Peace
I've never set up a bbs so I wouldn't know where to begin. As for helping.. why don't you read the mmud ?'s forum.. I've replied with several suggestions there, as well as re: edits for morbid and other boards. But you just wanted to flame me.. you don't actually read any other sections here to know the truth.
Re: new rules...................................
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:08 pm
by Aragon
Originally posted by Rust In Peace
Heh, naw.. all I was saying is that Atma didn't exactly insult or "flame" anyone per se... Sure he came looking for a fight, but he was mostly civil imo. Neither did I really.. We were just writing down our observations. Is that allowed?
First amendment - Free speech. Does that mean you can go around and say whatever you want to whomever you want? For the most part, yes. There are a few exceptions (libelous comments). Do people have a right to kick you out of, say a public establishment if you say things inappropriate for the environment or it seems you are causing trouble? Yes.
Now then, if a person of authority, say a police officer comes up to you, do you mouth off to him? I bet you don't... So why do it here?
If I was such a power tripping bad guy like you guys say, I don't think MMB would have as many members as it does today. Obviously I'm doing something right.
So to answer your questions, yes you are allowed to voice your opinion. What comes along with voicing your opinion is using common sense in knowing what is appropriate and what is not.
Does that mean you are not allowed to criticize me? Of course not. Have I EVER deleted/edited posts that attack me? Nope. Have I ever banned anyone on the basis that they don't like me or I don't like them? Nope.
I ban people only when they refuse to follow the rules after many "second" chances.
With that said, you should know that Atma isn't banned as of now. He's just not allowed to post for a while until he calms down and has a chance to understand what I'm trying to say.
More over, search for "insipid" and [i dont remember the other name] and you'll see underwhat circumstances they were banned.
You will notice it had nothing to do with them voicing their opinion but rather the way in which they voiced it.
This isn't your middle school schoolyard. Remember that.
Re: new rules...................................
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:13 pm
by Rust In Peace
You are doing something right -- you are providing a place for people who enjoy editing mmud to get together, discuss and do their thing. And everyone's thankful for that.
And I'm not saying you're like the worst admin ever. Usually you're very fair.. sometimes you just seem to go on streaks. This weekend seems to be one of those..
Re: new rules...................................
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:19 pm
by Platinum
Cuz he banned Atma? Atma comes on here and has this "what I say goes" attitude. Have you ever tried to contradict anything Atma said, even in a friendly tone? He cuts you down and tries to make you look stupid.
I don't care what anyone has contributed..people who are shitty to anyone who has something to say that doesnt 100% agree with what they saying should be banned.
Rust - you're cool in my book. But when you say you contributed by commenting on edits - all you did was say "Oh, this is a shitty edit" or "Oh, this is overpowered, whoever made it is an idiot."
Next time you have something to say about edits, say what you think would HELP them instead of just being pissy about it. Other than posting about Mud, you're usually nice on this forum. Aragon didnt single ANYONE out, they singled themselves out.
I'm like..bored of reading about everyone bitching over the rules..so..afk n stuff..
Re: new rules...................................
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:22 pm
by Rust In Peace
If it's an overpowered edit, then that's what I'll say. If you wanna have 2 godly out-of-whack classes, and rest shitty, then feel free.. if you want a balanced mud, then you'll hopefully listen to what I say.