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WG isn't 12 grand...you realize 12 grand is $12,000?

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Yes, I know what 12 grand is. Now do you wanna tell me what the price is for the enterprise version with max user count? Last I checked, it was 12 grand.



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I ran ME, I had no problems with it other than your basic Microshit stuff that you get on any Microsoft OS...

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And one incident without trouble means it's not that bad despite the fact pretty much every professional in the field pisses on it daily?



Oh, and you haven't tried Windows 2000. That's not a question, that's a statement.



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And MajorMUD well...think about it this way. Have you ever noticed that Legit BBS's don't have half the problems with MajorMUD that you or I have? Do you realize that by so much as making 1 change, we could be fucking something up that causes these things?

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Considering how much editting I've done before, and how many high level characters I've had on legit boards, I'd say I know that probably better than anyone here. Including you. But that doesn't negate the fact that MMUD comes riddled with bugs straight from Metro. They've been fumbled on one bug for almost a YEAR now, do you realize that? Why do you think 1.11j isn't out yet? And wanna name a mod from Metro that came without any major bugs? Oh yeah, there are NONE. Mod 8 was especially bad, it basically destroyed some games so they'd have to live forever with everything out of whack from mass duping, or reset.



How about the mod 9 bugs? Let's see... for starters, the evil quest didn't work right. Several quest monsters were bugged because they were never tested. Do you know MR doesn't reduce drain effects? Do you think the dark mage and lich were INTENDED to have necromantic storm that drains the ENTIRE ROOM for 400+? How about the dreadlord? Those warmongers are SUPPOSE to take an hour to regen. But he's damn near impossible because IT WAS NEVER TESTED, AND NEVER FIXED. Again, do you think it was intended for 13 people to go in and all die before they could even attack the dreadlord? How about the fallen angel door? Or the nexus spear? Or the gnaj creator? Lilliam Whitemane ring a bell?



I'm not even gonna get into mod 7 and 8.



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I've seen legit BBS's (of course, only counting veteran ones, not the ones you see 20 different addy's from the same sysop within 6 months on Mudcentral) last just fine, without a problem, for years+...

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The legit board I play on has MUD crashes every few days. I know it's MUD because MUD is on a seperate server, and the rest of the board is fine. We have shit poofing constantly, too. You can say that's because of a delay in saving that can't be avoided, but you'd be wrong. Characters are saved when they die. Why can't the room be saved when they die? Poor programming, that's why. We also have bank balances decrease randomly. When I have no deed on me, and I've been scripting 400 rooms from town for a solid week, there's no reason my balance should be missing 3 runic. But it is. Sure, legit boards can stay up for years, but they still have problems. The only reason they do stay up is because somebody was dumb enough to throw thousands of dollars into it and they don't wanna abandon it.



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I don't know though, this will probably spark a Novel from Atma and rantings from a few other people..

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If you don't want a retort, don't post an argument.

That's your problem Atma...



You're an ass..



You think everything you say is right, you make people not even want to post.



For your information, I have used Windows 2000, and I didn't say ME wasn't shit, I was merely stating why I did not vote ME, because when I used it I didn't have the problems other people did..



You can run off and buy WG for 12 grand, if I really wanted it enough to waste money on it, I could find it for $500. I'll save that $11,500 and buy something nice..



Oh well though..your threads make this forum very unexciting, I don't think I'll even bother reading anymore posts and/or threads from you as, well, it appears they're a complete waste of my time..



Other than the fact that it gets you all worked up, kinda enjoyable I guess...then again anything anyone says causes you to shit your pants so I guess all my enjoyment is gone..have a great day!

Originally posted by Atma

The word I meant was bad, not buggy. Way to split hairs. Try going on 4 hours sleep and working all day (a concept totally alien to Speed I'm sure), then getting every word right.



*nod* Right after someone gets told, they normally resort to personal business that they have no idea about. I can understand that.

Side Note -- For Everyone, directed at Atma



Don't assume anything about me. Don't think you know anything about me. Don't think you have a clue as to what my life is like.



You are wrong.

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That's your problem Atma...



You're an ass..

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That's odd, I wasn't an ass when you were bugging me on an hourly basis for info you could find on sinister's webpage. Or for items. Or when I set up a game specifically how you wanted it. You sure do have a short memory span.



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You think everything you say is right, you make people not even want to post.

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I *AM* right. You talked about how most the bugs we see are due to hexing and MMUD isn't really that bad. I proved you very, very wrong without even going into more than the past 2 released. You claimed WG doesn't cost 12 grand. I said that's what the creators charged. You balled that you can get it at a garage sale or some shit for $2.50. And if you WEREN'T defending Win ME, then what the hell were you saying that for? And I think pretty much every professional will tell you you're living in your own little world if you think there's much difference between 2K and ME.



What it really boils down to is you're still all pissy because your little "shut up, I'm a communist and I don't wanna hear your political arguments" post made me throw up. GET OVER IT. You're the only one that took any of that crap seriously. I was talking with Xetox and Dxpac very shortly after arguments with them, and neither of them seemed to have took it seriously. I know I sure as hell didn't.



Grow some skin, woman. Jesus.

Well, when he has no basis for argument, he has to assume something, or else he will have to shut his mouth, which would cause the world to fold inside itself.

For your information, I have used Windows 2000, and I didn't say ME wasn't shit, I was merely stating why I did not vote ME, because when I used it I didn't have the problems other people did..



Am I defending ME really? Or did I just say that "I WAS MERELY STATING WHY I DID NOT VOTE ME.



I could be wrong, maybe I didn't say that..



That's odd, I wasn't an ass when you were bugging me on an hourly basis for info you could find on sinister's webpage. Or for items. Or when I set up a game specifically how you wanted it. You sure do have a short memory span.



Nod..you were an ass then, too. You were an ass to all my friends, who had no reason why I even talked to you. Notice how, every BBS you log onto, except Sinister because you're a sysop there, everyone hates you? Coincidence, pure coincidence..



I was bugging you on an hourly basis? I barely bugged you for anything. Ninety percent of my questions went to Dxpac, the rest went to you only because he wasn't around. Don't flatter yourself.



Yeah, you set up a realm the way I wanted it. Not like you didn't ignore me after it. Not like you didn't conjure yourself things (and don't lie, I know). I know you quit..all the better..but guess what? I did too!



*Yawn*..I've got uh..socks to pick up..at least it's time better speant.



*Sparks the novel*



Post Atma, Post quick! I might not read anymore! Hurry!





*note to mods*

Not a flame, I don't even use any bad language, merely stating facts, however if you dislike this, let me know. He had it coming..

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Nod..you were an ass then, too. You were an ass to all my friends, who had no reason why I even talked to you. Notice how, every BBS you log onto, except Sinister because you're a sysop there, everyone hates you?

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Yeah, and I'm sure you've got some proof to back that up, right? Oh wait, YOU DON'T. The only board there was some heat on was Collision X, and only at first, and only because Ssken and I specifically went there to randomly kill people. Hey, if I recall.. wasn't I invited to the gang you and Plague were in?



Oh yeah, and why is it that nobody on Sinister had a problem with me BEFORE I was an op? I think we all know Dxpac well enough to know that he didn't give me ops the first day I came there, and he wouldn't give ops to somebody that everybody had a problem with. I guess you're just lying.



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I was bugging you on an hourly basis? I barely bugged you for anything. Ninety percent of my questions went to Dxpac, the rest went to you only because he wasn't around. Don't flatter yourself.

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Please, you're half the reason I quit the first time around. Remember how I said people were bugging me 24/7? The biggest one was you. Remember how I said some idiots wanted everything changed in their favor? I was talking about you, and only you, Mr. "Can you up priest damage spells because I suck next to a mage?"



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Yeah, you set up a realm the way I wanted it. Not like you didn't ignore me after it.

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Excuse me? I set up a game, woman, I didn't screw you. I don't have to call the next day. You never asked for anything else, what exactly did I ignore you on?



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Not like you didn't conjure yourself things (and don't lie, I know).

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Is that so? Exactly what did I conjure? You were there when I got half the shit I got. I don't cheat. But let's see if you do.



01/08/02 07:28:09 Platinum telepaths: do0d if yer pissed cuz i "told edge on you that you were conjuring chests" i was fuckin playing..grow the fuck up..



Drago had given me some diamond-studdeds for quick exp, and you falsely accused me of cheating. Remember that? Then you were "joking" later on. Just because you're a cheating piece of crap doesn't mean everybody else. Anybody want proof Platinum's a cheating piece of crap?



04/08/02 12:27:23 Platinum telepaths: hey can you sys list lim and find out where mithril cutlass is? dank died from lag..possibleyou could get his shit?

04/08/02 12:27:41 Platinum telepaths: fuck:(

04/08/02 12:27:58 Platinum telepaths: think you can conjure his shit back minus his wep?

04/08/02 12:28:08 Platinum telepaths: no way in hell we'd live to make it to get his stuff:(



Notice how he says "no way in hell we'd live TO GET HIS STUFF"... it obviously didn't poof. But he's trying to get me to conjure it. Hrm, but I'm the cheater, huh plat?



iZiTCuZ iM WhiTe (4:40:27 PM): can you give me a staff cuz its messed up? :-) heh..only reason i REALLY want one is priest is only 2 bil to 100

Neo Atma (4:40:48 PM): I can't conjure one cuz you had bad luck :-)



LOL.



iZiTCuZ iM WhiTe (7:31:24 AM): weel heres the deal - absolut and phlava died last night while scripting..platinum lived, at -300+, but he lived..i went back out there to get my eq, i only found everything my priest was wearing..absolut's shit disappeared..i was wondering if someone could conjure it back for me? everything i had on him was lim..no way i can get it all back, so im not going to play til someone can help me:-(



How many of these damn conjure requests have you given me?! My shit poofed on sinister about a week ago and I walked my ass back and got everything back myself. And I went literally 25 DSC bosses (20% drop) before I got one... but did I look for a conjure like you did with Ghaleon? Even though I had gone through 25, and you had gone through 8? Nope.



Oh, and here's another good one.



iZiTCuZ iM WhiTe (11:09:35 PM): look..i know why you're mad..and i guess the only thing i havent done so far to get you un-mad is apologize..well im sorry..my bad..i didnt mean to accuse you of conjuring a chest..sinister mud was annoying me at the time...drago wasn't exactly being himself and was pissing me off a lot..i was just highly aggrivated..i know drago gave you a chest. I was just mad for some reason cuz i'd been trying to get a chest hard as hell..shit i'd been scripting ice sorc..then the same day u sign up u got one..shrug..my bad man..like i says..im sorry



Well would you look at that? Platty's changing his story. Now he wasn't joking, he was stressed out and just picked me to be a dick to. LOL. Okay, I think that's enough for now, we all get the point. Platinum, you are a cheater, a whiny little girl, and a liar. Go away.

Jesus fing christ, no wonder why Aragon is all pissed about this shit. These forums are getting more and more like mudcentrals where the ops are constantly having to ban people and delete posts.

they should make a pissing contest forum or a lover's quarrel one. hehe