Gay marriage and gay only schools are MY problem because they're crossing the line from equality to pushing their agenda in my face. Civil unions are fine. Gay only schools are NOT. How can they expect to ever be allowed to marry when they still continue to isolate themselves from the mainstream?
Tolerance is fine. You can tolerate a particular type of behavior, but still refuse to accept it.
Bush....what a fucking douche.
Re: Bush....what a fucking douche.
Originally posted by Voodoo_Chile
Gay marriage and gay only schools are MY problem because they're crossing the line from equality to pushing their agenda in my face. Civil unions are fine. Gay only schools are NOT. How can they expect to ever be allowed to marry when they still continue to isolate themselves from the mainstream?
Tolerance is fine. You can tolerate a particular type of behavior, but still refuse to accept it.
you still haven't answered my question. how is gay marriages pushing their agenda in your face? how will it make your life ANY different?
Gay marriage and gay only schools are MY problem because they're crossing the line from equality to pushing their agenda in my face. Civil unions are fine. Gay only schools are NOT. How can they expect to ever be allowed to marry when they still continue to isolate themselves from the mainstream?
Tolerance is fine. You can tolerate a particular type of behavior, but still refuse to accept it.
you still haven't answered my question. how is gay marriages pushing their agenda in your face? how will it make your life ANY different?
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Re: Bush....what a fucking douche.
Originally posted by Voodoo_Chile
And marriage is a HETEROSEXUAL institution. If they want to have civil unions, fine, but don't expect to partake in sacred institutions that were never meant for homosexuals.
Can you point to me where in the constitution it says that marriage is a sacred heterosexual institution? Can you find anywhere in documented law that has not been overturned by the Supreme Court that says marriage is a strictly heterosexual institution? You're basing this on religious beliefs and those have no place in government.
I think similar arguments were made even after the Emancipation Proclamation that pointed out african-americans oddity. How they didn't belong in a "white society". It wasn't right before, it wasn't right after, and it's not acceptable thinking NOW.
And marriage is a HETEROSEXUAL institution. If they want to have civil unions, fine, but don't expect to partake in sacred institutions that were never meant for homosexuals.
Can you point to me where in the constitution it says that marriage is a sacred heterosexual institution? Can you find anywhere in documented law that has not been overturned by the Supreme Court that says marriage is a strictly heterosexual institution? You're basing this on religious beliefs and those have no place in government.
I think similar arguments were made even after the Emancipation Proclamation that pointed out african-americans oddity. How they didn't belong in a "white society". It wasn't right before, it wasn't right after, and it's not acceptable thinking NOW.
Re: Bush....what a fucking douche.
First let me preface this by saying that I do like Cananada, but I feel the need to defend that which I mock. And this is all in good fun, I promise... :)
Originally posted by Pantharen
Hmmm nobody likes Canadians? I dont ever hear foreign countrys screaming that Canada is Satan.
And how often is Canada attacked for whatever reason, um NEVER.
When was the last time you heard any country talking about Canada in general? No news is good news, eh? And for the record, the attack was on our SHARED way of life, not my country. When you turn socialist up north, let me know, k? Until then, go ask your primier whose side you're on. Have his French-Canadian ass explain it to you.
Tell me why is it if EVERYONE dislikes Canada, why are we welcomed with open arms where ever we go?
Pity. Retards and cripples are welcomed with those same arms. Don't flatter yourself. On a serious note, have you traveled outside of your country? After being through most of Western Europe, I found out that Canadians are viewed the same as Americans. The view isn't that nice, mind you, but it's equal. You're not welcome as much as you think you are.
Only time a country invaded Canada was during the war of 1812. But I wont go into that war, Dun want to piss the closed minded ones off.
Go ask Mexico how many times it's been invaded in recent history. People aren't invading your country because people don't want your country. There needs to be some desire.
And lastly, we dont have a control phreak who runs the country.
And we don't currently have the entire Mid-West trying to secede. But you don't like Quebec, do you?
Heil Bush!
World War II casualties: US -- 295,000, Canada -- 42,000.
Way to show some support. We defended your motherland more than you did. Thanks for participating.
Originally posted by Pantharen
Hmmm nobody likes Canadians? I dont ever hear foreign countrys screaming that Canada is Satan.
And how often is Canada attacked for whatever reason, um NEVER.
When was the last time you heard any country talking about Canada in general? No news is good news, eh? And for the record, the attack was on our SHARED way of life, not my country. When you turn socialist up north, let me know, k? Until then, go ask your primier whose side you're on. Have his French-Canadian ass explain it to you.
Tell me why is it if EVERYONE dislikes Canada, why are we welcomed with open arms where ever we go?
Pity. Retards and cripples are welcomed with those same arms. Don't flatter yourself. On a serious note, have you traveled outside of your country? After being through most of Western Europe, I found out that Canadians are viewed the same as Americans. The view isn't that nice, mind you, but it's equal. You're not welcome as much as you think you are.
Only time a country invaded Canada was during the war of 1812. But I wont go into that war, Dun want to piss the closed minded ones off.
Go ask Mexico how many times it's been invaded in recent history. People aren't invading your country because people don't want your country. There needs to be some desire.
And lastly, we dont have a control phreak who runs the country.
And we don't currently have the entire Mid-West trying to secede. But you don't like Quebec, do you?
Heil Bush!
World War II casualties: US -- 295,000, Canada -- 42,000.
Way to show some support. We defended your motherland more than you did. Thanks for participating.
Re: Bush....what a fucking douche.
Originally posted by Voodoo_Chile
[...] And marriage is a HETEROSEXUAL institution. If they want to have civil unions, fine, but don't expect to partake in sacred institutions that were never meant for homosexuals. [...]
And even though I've asked many times, neither you nor anyone else defending your side of the argument has been able to tell me the difference between a "marriage" and a "civil union". Last I checked, the difference was religion. And that's exactly what we're NOT discussing. Care to enlighten me? Or is this going to fall on deaf (read: selective hearing) ears yet again?
And segregation is never the answer to any problem. The Berlin wall didn't work. The great wall of China didn't work. The Israeli/Palestinian wall is not going to work. If gays want to be accepted, they should assimilate with other children in the public school system instead of building walls which isolates them even more from the mainstream society.
Cool. While you're at it, take away charter schools, private schools, perochial schools, and learning at home. Because, you know, they're not growing up in exactly the same way as the kids that go to public schools. It's not a good idea. Right?
Oh, and read your history again -- the Great Wall of China worked amazingly for hundreds of years. It succeeded in defending against numerous invading armies (both organized and loosely organized barbarian tribal warriors).
Gay children are allowed to go to public schools, and the majority of them will continue to do so. But if some want to get schooling in an environment where they're not teased and beaten daily for their sexuality, and it doesn't even cost the public a dime, who the fuck are you to tell them that's wrong?
[...] And marriage is a HETEROSEXUAL institution. If they want to have civil unions, fine, but don't expect to partake in sacred institutions that were never meant for homosexuals. [...]
And even though I've asked many times, neither you nor anyone else defending your side of the argument has been able to tell me the difference between a "marriage" and a "civil union". Last I checked, the difference was religion. And that's exactly what we're NOT discussing. Care to enlighten me? Or is this going to fall on deaf (read: selective hearing) ears yet again?
And segregation is never the answer to any problem. The Berlin wall didn't work. The great wall of China didn't work. The Israeli/Palestinian wall is not going to work. If gays want to be accepted, they should assimilate with other children in the public school system instead of building walls which isolates them even more from the mainstream society.
Cool. While you're at it, take away charter schools, private schools, perochial schools, and learning at home. Because, you know, they're not growing up in exactly the same way as the kids that go to public schools. It's not a good idea. Right?
Oh, and read your history again -- the Great Wall of China worked amazingly for hundreds of years. It succeeded in defending against numerous invading armies (both organized and loosely organized barbarian tribal warriors).
Gay children are allowed to go to public schools, and the majority of them will continue to do so. But if some want to get schooling in an environment where they're not teased and beaten daily for their sexuality, and it doesn't even cost the public a dime, who the fuck are you to tell them that's wrong?
Re: Bush....what a fucking douche.
Originally posted by Voodoo_Chile
Gay marriage and gay only schools are MY problem because they're crossing the line from equality to pushing their agenda in my face. Civil unions are fine. Gay only schools are NOT. How can they expect to ever be allowed to marry when they still continue to isolate themselves from the mainstream?
Tolerance is fine. You can tolerate a particular type of behavior, but still refuse to accept it.
First off, the line of equality hasn't even been seen yet, let alone breached. "Tolerance: The capacity for or the practice of recognizing and respecting the beliefs or practices of others." You, my friend, aren't tolerant.
Again, real fast, define "civil union" and explain it's difference from marriage (without bringing up religion).
Do you do anything to isolate yourself from the mainstream? Anything at all? You can't answer no to that. I still don't see your argument being any different than me saying "Fat people are disgusting, they shouldn't be allowed to marry. Just imagine them having sex; it's gross. How can we allow that?" By disallowing them the right to become a legally wed couple, you're borderlining on considering them lesser citizens.
Let me make something clear -- I am listening to you're argument. I want to understand why people view homosexual marriages (remember, without a religious backing) as something intrusive to the normalcy of the human race. I'm not sticking out my argument, covering my ears, and not listening to anything in response.
But I have yet to see anything written besides cheap shots and unbacked opinions. You don't think it should be allowed? *Why*. You think it's "unnatural"? *Why* You think I'm wrong? Tell me *WHY* you think I'm wrong. I (along with many others) have given both factual and opinion-based reasoning for our views. Now explain yours.
Gay marriage and gay only schools are MY problem because they're crossing the line from equality to pushing their agenda in my face. Civil unions are fine. Gay only schools are NOT. How can they expect to ever be allowed to marry when they still continue to isolate themselves from the mainstream?
Tolerance is fine. You can tolerate a particular type of behavior, but still refuse to accept it.
First off, the line of equality hasn't even been seen yet, let alone breached. "Tolerance: The capacity for or the practice of recognizing and respecting the beliefs or practices of others." You, my friend, aren't tolerant.
Again, real fast, define "civil union" and explain it's difference from marriage (without bringing up religion).
Do you do anything to isolate yourself from the mainstream? Anything at all? You can't answer no to that. I still don't see your argument being any different than me saying "Fat people are disgusting, they shouldn't be allowed to marry. Just imagine them having sex; it's gross. How can we allow that?" By disallowing them the right to become a legally wed couple, you're borderlining on considering them lesser citizens.
Let me make something clear -- I am listening to you're argument. I want to understand why people view homosexual marriages (remember, without a religious backing) as something intrusive to the normalcy of the human race. I'm not sticking out my argument, covering my ears, and not listening to anything in response.
But I have yet to see anything written besides cheap shots and unbacked opinions. You don't think it should be allowed? *Why*. You think it's "unnatural"? *Why* You think I'm wrong? Tell me *WHY* you think I'm wrong. I (along with many others) have given both factual and opinion-based reasoning for our views. Now explain yours.
Re: Bush....what a fucking douche.
Originally posted by apathy
First let me preface this by saying that I do like Cananada, but I feel the need to defend that which I mock. And this is all in good fun, I promise... :)
No worries there :)
When was the last time you heard any country talking about Canada in general? No news is good news, eh? And for the record, the attack was on our SHARED way of life, not my country. When you turn socialist up north, let me know, k? Until then, go ask your primier whose side you're on. Have his French-Canadian ass explain it to you.
I wasn't refering to a specific incident. I'm on the West Coast, and generally ignored by the rest of the Country, in out last election our votes we'nt even aknowledged, at least Florida got 2 chances to get it wrong (JK)
Pity. Retards and cripples are welcomed with those same arms. Don't flatter yourself. On a serious note, have you traveled outside of your country? After being through most of Western Europe, I found out that Canadians are viewed the same as Americans. The view isn't that nice, mind you, but it's equal. You're not welcome as much as you think you are.
I was in London in 2001, and when asked where was I from, and I said Canada, you could see the look of relief, and I had one couple say "thank god, we thought you were American" Mind you Austrialia doesn't give a shit, they figure Canada & the US are the same country (my ex-wife is an Aussie (dumb bitch)
Go ask Mexico how many times it's been invaded in recent history. People aren't invading your country because people don't want your country. There needs to be some desire.
My Country is too fucking big, with too much undeveloped land, 90% of my Province is only accessible by plane. (I live in British Columbia) "Vancouver", I'm 4hr drive North of Seattle.
And we don't currently have the entire Mid-West trying to secede. But you don't like Quebec, do you?
I have nothing against Quebec, except that being an anglo, and I do not speak french, but if I go into Quebec City, I'll have a bitch of a time getting any service because I dont speak French.
World War II casualties: US -- 295,000, Canada -- 42,000.
Way to show some support. We defended your motherland more than you did. Thanks for participating.
We dont have the military force that the US has, We have less that 1/3 the people.
42,000 that was probably my entire military.
And our Navy is just as bad, I think we have 3 Subs, and 2 of them are in West Edmonton Mall. (jk)
First let me preface this by saying that I do like Cananada, but I feel the need to defend that which I mock. And this is all in good fun, I promise... :)
No worries there :)
When was the last time you heard any country talking about Canada in general? No news is good news, eh? And for the record, the attack was on our SHARED way of life, not my country. When you turn socialist up north, let me know, k? Until then, go ask your primier whose side you're on. Have his French-Canadian ass explain it to you.
I wasn't refering to a specific incident. I'm on the West Coast, and generally ignored by the rest of the Country, in out last election our votes we'nt even aknowledged, at least Florida got 2 chances to get it wrong (JK)
Pity. Retards and cripples are welcomed with those same arms. Don't flatter yourself. On a serious note, have you traveled outside of your country? After being through most of Western Europe, I found out that Canadians are viewed the same as Americans. The view isn't that nice, mind you, but it's equal. You're not welcome as much as you think you are.
I was in London in 2001, and when asked where was I from, and I said Canada, you could see the look of relief, and I had one couple say "thank god, we thought you were American" Mind you Austrialia doesn't give a shit, they figure Canada & the US are the same country (my ex-wife is an Aussie (dumb bitch)
Go ask Mexico how many times it's been invaded in recent history. People aren't invading your country because people don't want your country. There needs to be some desire.
My Country is too fucking big, with too much undeveloped land, 90% of my Province is only accessible by plane. (I live in British Columbia) "Vancouver", I'm 4hr drive North of Seattle.
And we don't currently have the entire Mid-West trying to secede. But you don't like Quebec, do you?
I have nothing against Quebec, except that being an anglo, and I do not speak french, but if I go into Quebec City, I'll have a bitch of a time getting any service because I dont speak French.
World War II casualties: US -- 295,000, Canada -- 42,000.
Way to show some support. We defended your motherland more than you did. Thanks for participating.
We dont have the military force that the US has, We have less that 1/3 the people.
42,000 that was probably my entire military.
And our Navy is just as bad, I think we have 3 Subs, and 2 of them are in West Edmonton Mall. (jk)