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Durin
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The main reason the electoral college was put into place 200+ years ago, is because people are stupid. The average person 200 years ago was a farmer, and a complete moron. If not for the electoral college there was fear that the "common" people would ruin the country with an uneducated idiot. The "founding fathers" feared the uneducated people and wanted someway to check them. The electoral college is primarily not needed for this reason anymore, but it helps with numbers and such as u people have argued about til this point. You will all think im wrong, but break out the history books and READ!
Speed
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The main reason the electoral college was put into place 200+ years ago, is because people are stupid. The average person 200 years ago was a farmer, and a complete moron. If not for the electoral college there was fear that the "common" people would ruin the country with an uneducated idiot. The "founding fathers" feared the uneducated people and wanted someway to check them. The electoral college is primarily not needed for this reason anymore, but it helps with numbers and such as u people have argued about til this point. You will all think im wrong, but break out the history books and READ!



What the hell are you talking about? The electoral college was set in place because the presidential candidates only had to campaign states with a large population, instead of those with a very small population. What does it have to do with common people and uneducated people?
YaMamaBitch
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Post by YaMamaBitch »

i am learning more in this thread about history then i ever did in school.. lol.. i hated history/social studies class
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I have to agree with Speed 100% on this thread. Sorry peeps.
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When voters cast their ballots, they’re actually electing the 538 members of the Electoral College, the ones who will really cast votes for Al Gore and George W. Bush. It takes 270 of their votes to determine the next president.





Key Electoral College Facts

Total electoral votes=538



States get one electoral vote for each senator (100), and one electoral vote per U.S. representative (435), plus three electoral votes for the District of Columbia (3).



At least 270 votes — absolute majority — is needed to win the Electoral College.



Most state ballots require voters to cast their ballot for the “Electors for” each candidate. Forty-eight states, plus the District of Columbia, then award all their electoral votes to the winner of the popular vote; Maine and Nebraska are the exceptions.



On the Monday following the second Wednesday of December (this year Monday, Dec. 18), each state’s electors meet in their respective state capitals to vote. The ballots are then transmitted to the president of the Senate (the sitting Vice President of the United States) who, on the following Jan. 6, reads them before both houses of the Congress.



Still confused? Read on for answers to more frequently asked questions about the Electoral College.



Why an Electoral College?



In a nutshell, the founding fathers didn’t trust us. They didn’t fear our stupidity so much as the limited ability of our forbears to learn about candidates outside their home region. Complicating matters further, a large block of smaller states sought to safeguard their powers within the new federal union.

At one point, the founding fathers approved a system whereby Congress would choose the president — something akin to Britain’s parliamentary system, minus the king. But that crumbled after fears that uncouth deals might be struck by legislators in private, so other proposals were considered. Direct election by the people was rejected, as was election by a vote of the governors, voting by electors chosen by each state’s legislators and, loopiest of all, voting by a special cadre of congressmen chosen by lot.



http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/DailyNews/ELECTION_collegeguide.html
BlackHaze
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How Are Votes Doled Out?



Every state gets one electoral vote for each of its two U.S. senators, and one vote per U.S. representative.

Because there is a fixed number of senators (100) and representatives (435), the number of electoral votes also is fixed at 538 — with the District of Columbia getting three electoral votes (the territories have none).

Therefore, the minimum number of electoral votes a state can have is three; the most of any state is California’s current 54 (two senators plus 52 representatives).

With a total of 538 electoral votes, 270 are needed for a majority to win the White House.
Speed
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Post by Speed »

In a nutshell, the founding fathers didn’t trust us. They didn’t fear our stupidity so much as the limited ability of our forbears to learn about candidates outside their home region. Complicating matters further, a large block of smaller states sought to safeguard their powers within the new federal union.



Exactly what I have been saying. The limited ability of the people to learn about candidates outside their state, and the smaller states needing to safeguard their votes.
zan
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:topic:



This has nothing to do with Iraq :loser:



:D
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Post by MrBlack »

Don't forget, that the electorate has the power to change his/her mind on what the people voted (it is supposedly a rare occurance).
Speed
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Post by Speed »

When I was in high school, the number of times that had happened was three, and it never affected the outcome of the election. I do agree that that is a very shitty exception though.
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