For me personally, I would rather be friends with a woman, than get into the mental anguish that surrounds the bullshit involved in a relationship.
Sex is not a toy, anyone that thinks sex doesn't have to have a meaning is full of shit, regardless of how you try to convince yourself, your still full of shit if you think *a fuck* means nothing.
Yeah I know.. i have had many a time come across people wanting advise about obtaining, continuing, or ending a fuck buddy relationship. (Being the bitch that I am) I usually laugh from the start and tell them they were idiots for thinking there ever could be such a thing as a fuck buddy... and i tell them further more, if they want to get off there is this thing called masturbation... you don't need another person to enjoy yourself sexually... shit.... fucking people today. It is disgusting how non-chalantly they take sex.. and what little respect they hold for themselves. Can ya tell im in a pissy mood dear :wink:
Relationship Shit
Re: Relationship Shit
>>>I don't know if that is because I am extremely introverted or because that is my destiny
>>>Sure it sucks...the only reason I would want anyone around is...
>>>I hate...
>>>I absolutely cannot stand...
>>>but I can get off using my own hand
>>>So I piss on...
>>>I have better things...
>>>can do without some of the very few conviences...
Not exactly the arguments of, say, a nun. And rather negitive. The point of guessing bipolar was not to devalue your points or lable you but to understand conflicting ideas better. Accepting a defeat "can't find anybody" would not be the best reason to withdraw from human contact. That did NOT seem your point at all, yet there were still 9 of 15 lines with "negitivities"
It is your point that women that even think of sexuallity are whores now? What of ones that present them selves half naked in public arenas and speak of such things as getting off by thier own hand or wanting to "fuck themselves too"? Like it or not women are sexual beings too, including yourself, and it far from makes them whores.
You did speak of your past relationships indirectly with negitive suggested experiences "I hate" "I absolutely cannot stand" etc..
Lastly, "alone" is a good thing at times, I recall agreeing with you that you are probably at such a time in life. But destiny? For all currently alone? For whatever thier reasoning? That seems a bit much and not as healthy as "for now I need be without that complication in my life."
I think I messed up and tried to do too much in addressing your first post. I tryed to give asked for general opinion, but in retrospect wrongly tried better understanding where you were coming from at the same time. The result has been we focused on your personal examples. Bad move on my part, sorry. It is not, and should not, be about you. I should have made greater effort to avoid having any point seem relating to you personally. That, after all, was NOT your request for input.
>>>Sure it sucks...the only reason I would want anyone around is...
>>>I hate...
>>>I absolutely cannot stand...
>>>but I can get off using my own hand
>>>So I piss on...
>>>I have better things...
>>>can do without some of the very few conviences...
Not exactly the arguments of, say, a nun. And rather negitive. The point of guessing bipolar was not to devalue your points or lable you but to understand conflicting ideas better. Accepting a defeat "can't find anybody" would not be the best reason to withdraw from human contact. That did NOT seem your point at all, yet there were still 9 of 15 lines with "negitivities"
It is your point that women that even think of sexuallity are whores now? What of ones that present them selves half naked in public arenas and speak of such things as getting off by thier own hand or wanting to "fuck themselves too"? Like it or not women are sexual beings too, including yourself, and it far from makes them whores.
You did speak of your past relationships indirectly with negitive suggested experiences "I hate" "I absolutely cannot stand" etc..
Lastly, "alone" is a good thing at times, I recall agreeing with you that you are probably at such a time in life. But destiny? For all currently alone? For whatever thier reasoning? That seems a bit much and not as healthy as "for now I need be without that complication in my life."
I think I messed up and tried to do too much in addressing your first post. I tryed to give asked for general opinion, but in retrospect wrongly tried better understanding where you were coming from at the same time. The result has been we focused on your personal examples. Bad move on my part, sorry. It is not, and should not, be about you. I should have made greater effort to avoid having any point seem relating to you personally. That, after all, was NOT your request for input.
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IslaScotts
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Re: Relationship Shit
Being introverted is not negative. I hate and cannot stand were in relation to living with someone.. not just relationships. I hate living with my sister, which I do currently. I hated living with my roommates back in Colorado. I wasn't dating those people. Knowing you hate something isn't a positive? Having a moral sexual undertaking is negative? Acknowlegding I have better things to do with my time is negative? People "do without" cruise control everyday and say so... doesn't make them negative either. You have a wierd perception on what negativity and reality is.
>>>I don't know if that is because I am extremely introverted or because that is my destiny
>>>Sure it sucks...the only reason I would want anyone around is...
>>>I hate...
>>>I absolutely cannot stand...
>>>but I can get off using my own hand
>>>So I piss on...
>>>I have better things...
>>>can do without some of the very few conviences...
Umm I'm not a nun, umm and don't want to be one. And once again.. I actually pointed out I didn't whine about such stupid shit as "can't find anyone, woe is me" and that is the reason why. I mentioned a few of the reasons why I think I am destined to be alone.. my entire family thinks I am destined to be alone.. and I think I am destined for far greater things. I don't spend my precious time "trying to find someone" what a waste of time. And who said anything about withdrawing from human contact? I already said I get those things from other people. I.E. my friends, my parents, my siblings, my nieces and nephews, my daughter. You assume I withdraw from people. And as far as the "negativities" I am sorry you find moral and ideal standings negative.
Not exactly the arguments of, say, a nun. And rather negitive. The point of guessing bipolar was not to devalue your points or lable you but to understand conflicting ideas better. Accepting a defeat "can't find anybody" would not be the best reason to withdraw from human contact. That did NOT seem your point at all, yet there were still 9 of 15 lines with "negitivities"
Women are not whores for realizing and accepting their sexuality. What makes someone a whore is "tapping someones ass." I have never had sex for just idle reasons. I have never had sex without love. Displaying my sexuality and being comfortable with masturbation doesn't make me a whore.. fucking people out of some desperate need for intamcy they know not yet how to handle or comprehend and putting it under the guise of something else... that is wrong. So they whore themselves out hoping that somehow that will make someone love them or fill a void within themselves.
It is your point that women that even think of sexuallity are whores now? What of ones that present them selves half naked in public arenas and speak of such things as getting off by thier own hand or wanting to "fuck themselves too"? Like it or not women are sexual beings too, including yourself, and it far from makes them whores.
And once again I will say, I hate living with anyone... friend, roommate, sibling, parent, lover. It doesn't matter WHO it is... so no it isn't directly or indirectly pointing to past relationships. It could be fucking Buddah and I wouldn't like it. I can't stand it because I am introverted.
You did speak of your past relationships indirectly with negitive suggested experiences "I hate" "I absolutely cannot stand" etc..
IN YOUR OPINION, alone is only good at times. With my post I never once percieved anyone alone at the time as being destined.. I asked if they thought they were or not. Seems you are the only one who "pushes" their beliefs on others like some bible-thumping jesuit. And to ME that isn't healthy. I simply asked a question and explained why I was asking the question.
Lastly, "alone" is a good thing at times, I recall agreeing with you that you are probably at such a time in life. But destiny? For all currently alone? For whatever thier reasoning? That seems a bit much and not as healthy as "for now I need be without that complication in my life."
My post was a simple one, to ask others how they felt about their own "aloneness." I would have thought it strange if someone posted a question like that without at least giving some kind of hint as to where they come up with it. I.E. why were they asking the question in the first place. And it is fooling no one as to your quest for "relating to me personally." You didn't try to relate, you tried to tell me I am wrong. Basically that im young, dumb, and full of cum. You assumed that I slept around hoping to find love.. which i never have and never will. You assumed I must have some kind of mental disorder... which yes I still have mild OCD.. which obviously has little bearing. You assumed I based my conclusions on life on failed relationships... which I don't. You assumed me as a person that fit in well with your beliefs or people you know in general in order to spit out your "old age wisdom." If you had wanted to relate to me, or anyone else for that matter. Maybe you should not have assumed and asked instead. I gave a very breif run down of why i had come to that conclusion, just so people wouldn't be like "what the fuck is she talking about" or "where did she come up with that one?" Maybe you should actually try having a conversation with a person.. rather than talking down to them from your old age tower while they obviously sit on their young 1 inch toadstool. Maybe next time you should try not to be so arrogant as to believe you hold all the answers to life... and what makes a person's life happy. Especially telling people that what makes you happy will ultimately make them happy. If you want to know about my views or my conclusions.. ask.. do not assume... that is just rude.
I think I messed up and tried to do too much in addressing your first post. I tryed to give asked for general opinion, but in retrospect wrongly tried better understanding where you were coming from at the same time. The result has been we focused on your personal examples. Bad move on my part, sorry. It is not, and should not, be about you. I should have made greater effort to avoid having any point seem relating to you personally. That, after all, was NOT your request for input.
>>>I don't know if that is because I am extremely introverted or because that is my destiny
>>>Sure it sucks...the only reason I would want anyone around is...
>>>I hate...
>>>I absolutely cannot stand...
>>>but I can get off using my own hand
>>>So I piss on...
>>>I have better things...
>>>can do without some of the very few conviences...
Umm I'm not a nun, umm and don't want to be one. And once again.. I actually pointed out I didn't whine about such stupid shit as "can't find anyone, woe is me" and that is the reason why. I mentioned a few of the reasons why I think I am destined to be alone.. my entire family thinks I am destined to be alone.. and I think I am destined for far greater things. I don't spend my precious time "trying to find someone" what a waste of time. And who said anything about withdrawing from human contact? I already said I get those things from other people. I.E. my friends, my parents, my siblings, my nieces and nephews, my daughter. You assume I withdraw from people. And as far as the "negativities" I am sorry you find moral and ideal standings negative.
Not exactly the arguments of, say, a nun. And rather negitive. The point of guessing bipolar was not to devalue your points or lable you but to understand conflicting ideas better. Accepting a defeat "can't find anybody" would not be the best reason to withdraw from human contact. That did NOT seem your point at all, yet there were still 9 of 15 lines with "negitivities"
Women are not whores for realizing and accepting their sexuality. What makes someone a whore is "tapping someones ass." I have never had sex for just idle reasons. I have never had sex without love. Displaying my sexuality and being comfortable with masturbation doesn't make me a whore.. fucking people out of some desperate need for intamcy they know not yet how to handle or comprehend and putting it under the guise of something else... that is wrong. So they whore themselves out hoping that somehow that will make someone love them or fill a void within themselves.
It is your point that women that even think of sexuallity are whores now? What of ones that present them selves half naked in public arenas and speak of such things as getting off by thier own hand or wanting to "fuck themselves too"? Like it or not women are sexual beings too, including yourself, and it far from makes them whores.
And once again I will say, I hate living with anyone... friend, roommate, sibling, parent, lover. It doesn't matter WHO it is... so no it isn't directly or indirectly pointing to past relationships. It could be fucking Buddah and I wouldn't like it. I can't stand it because I am introverted.
You did speak of your past relationships indirectly with negitive suggested experiences "I hate" "I absolutely cannot stand" etc..
IN YOUR OPINION, alone is only good at times. With my post I never once percieved anyone alone at the time as being destined.. I asked if they thought they were or not. Seems you are the only one who "pushes" their beliefs on others like some bible-thumping jesuit. And to ME that isn't healthy. I simply asked a question and explained why I was asking the question.
Lastly, "alone" is a good thing at times, I recall agreeing with you that you are probably at such a time in life. But destiny? For all currently alone? For whatever thier reasoning? That seems a bit much and not as healthy as "for now I need be without that complication in my life."
My post was a simple one, to ask others how they felt about their own "aloneness." I would have thought it strange if someone posted a question like that without at least giving some kind of hint as to where they come up with it. I.E. why were they asking the question in the first place. And it is fooling no one as to your quest for "relating to me personally." You didn't try to relate, you tried to tell me I am wrong. Basically that im young, dumb, and full of cum. You assumed that I slept around hoping to find love.. which i never have and never will. You assumed I must have some kind of mental disorder... which yes I still have mild OCD.. which obviously has little bearing. You assumed I based my conclusions on life on failed relationships... which I don't. You assumed me as a person that fit in well with your beliefs or people you know in general in order to spit out your "old age wisdom." If you had wanted to relate to me, or anyone else for that matter. Maybe you should not have assumed and asked instead. I gave a very breif run down of why i had come to that conclusion, just so people wouldn't be like "what the fuck is she talking about" or "where did she come up with that one?" Maybe you should actually try having a conversation with a person.. rather than talking down to them from your old age tower while they obviously sit on their young 1 inch toadstool. Maybe next time you should try not to be so arrogant as to believe you hold all the answers to life... and what makes a person's life happy. Especially telling people that what makes you happy will ultimately make them happy. If you want to know about my views or my conclusions.. ask.. do not assume... that is just rude.
I think I messed up and tried to do too much in addressing your first post. I tryed to give asked for general opinion, but in retrospect wrongly tried better understanding where you were coming from at the same time. The result has been we focused on your personal examples. Bad move on my part, sorry. It is not, and should not, be about you. I should have made greater effort to avoid having any point seem relating to you personally. That, after all, was NOT your request for input.
Re: Relationship Shit
*laugh*
Right...
okay, I tried to back away nicely *shakes head*, but ya want to play this out...
It is the life's attitude....
Not even you could possibly believe the shit that you spew.
I never cared to "relate" to you, just better understand your points given from behind a tower of bull shit. Asking wasn't about to get to where you were really coming from.
I work for a living, I take care of my responcibilities (and the government's, not the other way arround) and seldom do I live behind such pretence to hide from myself: Relate to you? There was never a chance in hell of that.
Before you ramble on about making you feel guilty for wellfair like I already watched you do elsewhere might I suggest you probably should of thought about that (at least a lil) before having children. It is AID not your birth right to extort money from tax payers.
See if you thought about the future rather than making life choice based on the now (I have 1-5yrs probably less, maybe 1 day, not 50yrs!) perhaps you would have plan to provide more (like every other parent in the world HAS to) than just a basic existance the goverment provides for your child.
okay, lets get this clear, a whore is one that takes money for sexual favors. Most tend to be able to pay thier own bills. It would seem to me there is more honesty and honor even in that horid existance than there currently is in yours. Stop bastardizing the word to allow yourself to feel "better than that". Morality? *laugh* yeah stop bastardizing that one too the fact that you don't sleep arround (you are wrong assuming I ever thought you did) makes you no more "healthy" or "moral" with the existance you claim to enjoy than anyone that does sleep arround out of emotional neediness. One doesn't get to define morality, morality defines one.
Alone or with "partner", I don't really care one is as good as the other for most, but the life philosophy in this case that used to justify is 100% responcible for the place in life you currently are. Even for your arguing you have right to others to support not only your helpless children you didn't think about to protect before having, but you and your nights out even. That made it, and you, worth challenging. You are better than that. you are smarter than that. Any that walks or breaths is.
It is a defeatist attitude, one I have no doubt you will keep for awhile yet as hard as you try to justify and protect it. In the end though you owe it to your child to live past that 1-5yrs and something will have to change. But no worrys, I guess, the state can handle it if you don't make it, they have taken care of the better part already right? *wink*
WAKE THE FUCK UP!
Right...
okay, I tried to back away nicely *shakes head*, but ya want to play this out...
It is the life's attitude....
Not even you could possibly believe the shit that you spew.
I never cared to "relate" to you, just better understand your points given from behind a tower of bull shit. Asking wasn't about to get to where you were really coming from.
I work for a living, I take care of my responcibilities (and the government's, not the other way arround) and seldom do I live behind such pretence to hide from myself: Relate to you? There was never a chance in hell of that.
Before you ramble on about making you feel guilty for wellfair like I already watched you do elsewhere might I suggest you probably should of thought about that (at least a lil) before having children. It is AID not your birth right to extort money from tax payers.
See if you thought about the future rather than making life choice based on the now (I have 1-5yrs probably less, maybe 1 day, not 50yrs!) perhaps you would have plan to provide more (like every other parent in the world HAS to) than just a basic existance the goverment provides for your child.
okay, lets get this clear, a whore is one that takes money for sexual favors. Most tend to be able to pay thier own bills. It would seem to me there is more honesty and honor even in that horid existance than there currently is in yours. Stop bastardizing the word to allow yourself to feel "better than that". Morality? *laugh* yeah stop bastardizing that one too the fact that you don't sleep arround (you are wrong assuming I ever thought you did) makes you no more "healthy" or "moral" with the existance you claim to enjoy than anyone that does sleep arround out of emotional neediness. One doesn't get to define morality, morality defines one.
Alone or with "partner", I don't really care one is as good as the other for most, but the life philosophy in this case that used to justify is 100% responcible for the place in life you currently are. Even for your arguing you have right to others to support not only your helpless children you didn't think about to protect before having, but you and your nights out even. That made it, and you, worth challenging. You are better than that. you are smarter than that. Any that walks or breaths is.
It is a defeatist attitude, one I have no doubt you will keep for awhile yet as hard as you try to justify and protect it. In the end though you owe it to your child to live past that 1-5yrs and something will have to change. But no worrys, I guess, the state can handle it if you don't make it, they have taken care of the better part already right? *wink*
WAKE THE FUCK UP!
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IslaScotts
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Re: Relationship Shit
Nicely... back away nicely? Who are you fooling? If that was being nice I would hate to see you at your best.
You never wanted to relate to me, even though you said you did. Isn't that called a lie?
Please tell me what government aid I am on (psst I am on WIC)? And tell me how long I have been on this aid? (Psst over my lifetime 4 months which equals about 120 dollars total) Yeah.. I am really cleaning out the taxpayers.
So I guess whenever you have ideas on how things will work out you are never wrong? Yep.. people never get laid off from jobs? At least I am responsible enough TO get aid for my child. And if you knew anything of my situation, you would know I wouldn't have to be on aid if it were not for my husband not taking care of his responsibilities.. I.E. child support. Hell a 1/6th of what he owes me a month would be enough to not be on aid.
And whores do not pay their own bills, their pimps pay the bills. And 95% of all whores are addicted to a drug and they use prostitution as a means to feed their habit.
And I had my child in wedlock who was very well supported, with both parents working. And when my husband left I continued to work with no child support and no support from the government. I got laid off, shit happens. I got laid off 6 months ago... all those 6 months I wasn't on any assistance.. but now the money has run out... the job market sucks and I can make up to 9$ an hour and still recieve goverment assistance. So I have currently been on WIC for two weeks now. Yeah I am such a horrible mother.
Umm my daughter is 23 1/2 months old. I have had government assistance for 4 months total... how is that the better part of her life?
And you know the kicker of it all. All of this has NOTHING to do with my post or any of the points i made in my last post. This is what you do? Since you cannot debate something you pick a subject that might push someones buttons to see if you can win that way? So that is all you can come up with... that my life is worth less than a whore... that I am a horrible mother.... and a drain on taxpayers and society alike? WTF does that have to do with asking people about destiny and being alone? It doesn't... you had nothing else to give so you resorted to name-calling... "old age wisdom" ? hahahaha I now you see you also lack maturity.
So get back on topic or start another thread!
okay, I tried to back away nicely *shakes head*, but ya want to play this out...
I never cared to "relate" to you, just better understand your points given from behind a tower of bull shit. Asking wasn't about to get to where you were really coming from.
Relate to you? There was never a chance in hell of that.
It is AID not your birth right to extort money from tax payers.
okay, lets get this clear, a whore is one that takes money for sexual favors. Most tend to be able to pay thier own bills. It would seem to me there is more honesty and honor even in that horid existance than there currently is in yours.
Even for your arguing you have right to others to support not only your helpless children you didn't think about to protect before having, but you and your nights out even.
But no worrys, I guess, the state can handle it if you don't make it, they have taken care of the better part already right? *wink*
You never wanted to relate to me, even though you said you did. Isn't that called a lie?
Please tell me what government aid I am on (psst I am on WIC)? And tell me how long I have been on this aid? (Psst over my lifetime 4 months which equals about 120 dollars total) Yeah.. I am really cleaning out the taxpayers.
So I guess whenever you have ideas on how things will work out you are never wrong? Yep.. people never get laid off from jobs? At least I am responsible enough TO get aid for my child. And if you knew anything of my situation, you would know I wouldn't have to be on aid if it were not for my husband not taking care of his responsibilities.. I.E. child support. Hell a 1/6th of what he owes me a month would be enough to not be on aid.
And whores do not pay their own bills, their pimps pay the bills. And 95% of all whores are addicted to a drug and they use prostitution as a means to feed their habit.
And I had my child in wedlock who was very well supported, with both parents working. And when my husband left I continued to work with no child support and no support from the government. I got laid off, shit happens. I got laid off 6 months ago... all those 6 months I wasn't on any assistance.. but now the money has run out... the job market sucks and I can make up to 9$ an hour and still recieve goverment assistance. So I have currently been on WIC for two weeks now. Yeah I am such a horrible mother.
Umm my daughter is 23 1/2 months old. I have had government assistance for 4 months total... how is that the better part of her life?
And you know the kicker of it all. All of this has NOTHING to do with my post or any of the points i made in my last post. This is what you do? Since you cannot debate something you pick a subject that might push someones buttons to see if you can win that way? So that is all you can come up with... that my life is worth less than a whore... that I am a horrible mother.... and a drain on taxpayers and society alike? WTF does that have to do with asking people about destiny and being alone? It doesn't... you had nothing else to give so you resorted to name-calling... "old age wisdom" ? hahahaha I now you see you also lack maturity.
So get back on topic or start another thread!
okay, I tried to back away nicely *shakes head*, but ya want to play this out...
I never cared to "relate" to you, just better understand your points given from behind a tower of bull shit. Asking wasn't about to get to where you were really coming from.
Relate to you? There was never a chance in hell of that.
It is AID not your birth right to extort money from tax payers.
okay, lets get this clear, a whore is one that takes money for sexual favors. Most tend to be able to pay thier own bills. It would seem to me there is more honesty and honor even in that horid existance than there currently is in yours.
Even for your arguing you have right to others to support not only your helpless children you didn't think about to protect before having, but you and your nights out even.
But no worrys, I guess, the state can handle it if you don't make it, they have taken care of the better part already right? *wink*
Re: Relationship Shit
Ripper I'm on EI, but here in Canada, we pay into EI, so i am entitled to it, and for 48 weeks, I get paid to sit on my fat ass, and play TA & MMUD. and get paid to do so =)
Re: Relationship Shit
Actually it IS the same point miss thang. You are/were on more than WIC, you argued elsewhere about staying on aid, not working more than you do so you could stay home with your child, rather than supporting her/him. If I recall, you spoke of food stamps and other aids as well, beyond WIC.
How it all relates is in the mindset/life attitude you present while talking about both topics. It is your destiny to be alone... yet without aid or a change in attitude you could not support your self or your child with such belief. You speak of wishing to stay home more, you should not have to work enough to support your family, again not an opition unless you accept aid.
The problem with your conclutions are that you FULLY depend on others with different beliefs to support your "destiny". You do not get supported by those that believe the same way your do, but by people that believe in taking advantage of oppertunities before them in life and doing a little better. If everyone lives by your presented beliefs there soon become no $$ for supporting anyone. The USSR tried that experiment once, go look up the results of it some time.
Your arguements in the past, while within a system you did not then support, are retarded. You know social aid is very finite... You know for every dime you take in aid it is a dime out of some other childs mouth, or a dime keeping some other family from getting into low rent housing etc.
You want to be alone fine, do it on your own dime, but don't suggest it is your destiny while keeping that moronic attitude you are owed the aid that supports you and your child while not taking advantage of oppertunities life presents you.
Your ex is a dead beat? Sorry for that but, I nor anyone else picked him for you, that was all your choice. You both owe your child 100% its support, fairness is the kid eats, not that you get 50% from a man you suggest now it was your destiny never to be with as a family. That is a legal matter, you should force, but still your child needs you, because he is not, to FULLY 100% support him/her.
You can't find work? Again all your choice. Get off your ass and better your situation with school. You should have done this BEFORE a baby. Anyone can get loans and being on goverment aid, as a single mom, you have even greater oppertunies with schooling.
Every other person in the world was faced with the same shit and most take advange of oppertunity presented them to make things work, avoiding your mistakes, and support thier family and, yes, even contribute to the system so others do not fall.
In the end you are responcible for your situation 100%, if you need the aid I would be the first to tell you to go get it, that is why it is there, but take advange of the oppertunities it presents you, don't argue moronic bull shit while holding on to a set of self defeating attitudes like the world owes you somehow an existance where you will not get off your ass to find one yourself, stuck in "oh I may not live through the week so I will live for today, and fuck the future if it comes."
You ARE 24, you will more than likely live 50+ more years, at least 1/2 of that 50yrs your child WILL need supports of one kind or another from you to find a relitivly "normal" life existance for herself/himself.
As for "nice" yeah, sorry, that IS about as nice as I ever get in such situations. It was attempt, but *nod* I can see your point. It is hard when not respecting someone for thier choices while they assign blaim for them on everyone and every thing but themselves.
What you going to tell your child when he/she is 24? Sorry, I lived for the day, not the future, but your dad was the ass, and he is why you had nothing. He, not I, owed you the oppertunities we both had, but refused to allow you in your childhood and young adulthood?
You owe no explination for accepting aid, it is just that 24yr old, or rather 12yr old,(I know it all, so fuck off) attitude while always stuck in the "poor me" mode so that you can live without ever accepting oppertunies or responciblities, like some societal pariste, that I speak not to stand for.
How it all relates is in the mindset/life attitude you present while talking about both topics. It is your destiny to be alone... yet without aid or a change in attitude you could not support your self or your child with such belief. You speak of wishing to stay home more, you should not have to work enough to support your family, again not an opition unless you accept aid.
The problem with your conclutions are that you FULLY depend on others with different beliefs to support your "destiny". You do not get supported by those that believe the same way your do, but by people that believe in taking advantage of oppertunities before them in life and doing a little better. If everyone lives by your presented beliefs there soon become no $$ for supporting anyone. The USSR tried that experiment once, go look up the results of it some time.
Your arguements in the past, while within a system you did not then support, are retarded. You know social aid is very finite... You know for every dime you take in aid it is a dime out of some other childs mouth, or a dime keeping some other family from getting into low rent housing etc.
You want to be alone fine, do it on your own dime, but don't suggest it is your destiny while keeping that moronic attitude you are owed the aid that supports you and your child while not taking advantage of oppertunities life presents you.
Your ex is a dead beat? Sorry for that but, I nor anyone else picked him for you, that was all your choice. You both owe your child 100% its support, fairness is the kid eats, not that you get 50% from a man you suggest now it was your destiny never to be with as a family. That is a legal matter, you should force, but still your child needs you, because he is not, to FULLY 100% support him/her.
You can't find work? Again all your choice. Get off your ass and better your situation with school. You should have done this BEFORE a baby. Anyone can get loans and being on goverment aid, as a single mom, you have even greater oppertunies with schooling.
Every other person in the world was faced with the same shit and most take advange of oppertunity presented them to make things work, avoiding your mistakes, and support thier family and, yes, even contribute to the system so others do not fall.
In the end you are responcible for your situation 100%, if you need the aid I would be the first to tell you to go get it, that is why it is there, but take advange of the oppertunities it presents you, don't argue moronic bull shit while holding on to a set of self defeating attitudes like the world owes you somehow an existance where you will not get off your ass to find one yourself, stuck in "oh I may not live through the week so I will live for today, and fuck the future if it comes."
You ARE 24, you will more than likely live 50+ more years, at least 1/2 of that 50yrs your child WILL need supports of one kind or another from you to find a relitivly "normal" life existance for herself/himself.
As for "nice" yeah, sorry, that IS about as nice as I ever get in such situations. It was attempt, but *nod* I can see your point. It is hard when not respecting someone for thier choices while they assign blaim for them on everyone and every thing but themselves.
What you going to tell your child when he/she is 24? Sorry, I lived for the day, not the future, but your dad was the ass, and he is why you had nothing. He, not I, owed you the oppertunities we both had, but refused to allow you in your childhood and young adulthood?
You owe no explination for accepting aid, it is just that 24yr old, or rather 12yr old,(I know it all, so fuck off) attitude while always stuck in the "poor me" mode so that you can live without ever accepting oppertunies or responciblities, like some societal pariste, that I speak not to stand for.
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Easy people. Take it to the Flame forums if you want to keep this shit up. Otherwise stay on the ORIGINAL topic.
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I thank Islascotts for atleast TRYING to make a living for herself and her child and also accepting aid. Shes recieving aid but also at the same time paying into it through paycheck taxes.
I have some family members on govt aid and they do the same thing. That kinda thing does not bother me. What bothers me are those people that collect then sit on thier asses all day drinking thier coors light on thier lawn chairs and contributng nothing to society except for getting in the way and polluting the air with thier beater Dodge Spirits that cough out black smoke.
As for the whole "destiny" thing I dunno. Life I believe is chosen by actions. What you do affects everything else around you but there is also that area that you have no control over and it can bend you over at times. (example divorce, fire, flood, crap like that.) Islascotts is working her ass off to help raise her child and big deal if she needs a bit of help to make ends meet. With the economy and jobs being total shit these days we should all be GLAD we have something to go on. Our president isnt helping very much since he has a hard-on for terrorism and not fixing out country. Kerry isnt any better.
As for my own experience, I have a girlfriend and we live together with a cat and 2 fire-bellied toads. We have it all-right. We are working on getting rid of student loans and credit cards so we can finally start to afford things like a house and such. I cannot complain too much. I have a decent but boring job working at an ISP. I am above entry level and aligning myself for a higher position. Time will tell.
I have some family members on govt aid and they do the same thing. That kinda thing does not bother me. What bothers me are those people that collect then sit on thier asses all day drinking thier coors light on thier lawn chairs and contributng nothing to society except for getting in the way and polluting the air with thier beater Dodge Spirits that cough out black smoke.
As for the whole "destiny" thing I dunno. Life I believe is chosen by actions. What you do affects everything else around you but there is also that area that you have no control over and it can bend you over at times. (example divorce, fire, flood, crap like that.) Islascotts is working her ass off to help raise her child and big deal if she needs a bit of help to make ends meet. With the economy and jobs being total shit these days we should all be GLAD we have something to go on. Our president isnt helping very much since he has a hard-on for terrorism and not fixing out country. Kerry isnt any better.
As for my own experience, I have a girlfriend and we live together with a cat and 2 fire-bellied toads. We have it all-right. We are working on getting rid of student loans and credit cards so we can finally start to afford things like a house and such. I cannot complain too much. I have a decent but boring job working at an ISP. I am above entry level and aligning myself for a higher position. Time will tell.
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I thank Islascotts for atleast TRYING to make a living for herself and her child and also accepting aid..
AMEN!
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AMEN!
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