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BUT the problem with this is the exp charts will inevitably become unimportant because the balance created by races/classes which have 0% exp cost are basically negated. Just something to think about. A fairer way to reach 2x exp would be to multiply monster experience. I know you're not that interested in it, but it keeps the balance of the game intact more than fiddling with charts.



i don't think that holds true if you only subtract the % from the classes. races will hold the same weight and as long as you aren't subtracting more than 80% (thief) off classes, they're all be adjusted evenly. i could be wrong, but that's how i put it together in my brain.

It would be "of the total"



For instance, if normally it takes me 1000exp to reach level 1 on a 100% exp chart. I kill a monster worth 100exp; I am then 10% of the way to my level. But, if my exp chart were 50%, meaning I need 500exp to reach level 1, and then I killed a monster worth 100exp, I would be 20% of the way to my level. Consequently, each monster, though it is giving a normal level experience, is worth to my character 200% its normal value. Consequently 2x.



BUT the problem with this is the exp charts will inevitably become unimportant because the balance created by races/classes which have 0% exp cost are basically negated. Just something to think about. A fairer way to reach 2x exp would be to multiply monster experience. I know you're not that interested in it, but it keeps the balance of the game intact more than fiddling with charts.



Actually (damn no nerd smiley) the 0 races negate themselves either way since they don't add exp one way or another. And an easy way to figure out how much of an exp chart to give someone would be to do this:

Exp chart #

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X (where X is the amount of multiplication of the exp you want)



for both races and classes, since they add together to become your exp chart



Also, just multiplying monster exp is a BAD idea, case in point is the last time morbid opened up, and we had a mage get from level 80ish (where the exp table rolled over) to what was it legolas? 130 something in a month?

BUT the problem with this is the exp charts will inevitably become unimportant because the balance created by races/classes which have 0% exp cost are basically negated. Just something to think about. A fairer way to reach 2x exp would be to multiply monster experience. I know you're not that interested in it, but it keeps the balance of the game intact more than fiddling with charts.



i think i see what you may have been trying to get at. after adjusting classes to .33 of the total, i noticed how close they all are. warriors and witchunters are only 10% apart (as opposed to 30% normally). this is why i did (class exp chart - 30), e.g. 220% = 190%. that way they still have the same exp % gap between each other. since you guys are correct about calculating the mon multi equivalent, i have no idea what -30% would be equivalent to.

well it would vary per class actually, and whether they're "that close" it wouldn't matter either since it's still the same as doubling the exp rate. Think about it in mathematical terms on the higher levels, I think you'll follow it then, since that's all multiplying exp is for is getting there faster, technically, when you get to the higher levels, you'll wind up with the same difference in exp, just have to get to a higher level to see it.

In my opinion exp %s mean jack. Level exp rolls @ 40 billion, and rolls every 40 billion. +/- 2-3 billion. Take a look @ your exp calc you added into nightmare ;) A 5% exp chart (50 exp to lvl) rolls at lvl 140ish, while a normal 100% exp chart rolls about lvl 100. Basically, with the exp rolling, once you get past lvl 80-90 and the charts start rolling, your exp table doesn't mean as much. I'd say even out classes and stick everyone @ 100% exp if you plan on having tons of levels :)

i don't know if this helps, but here is a chart comparison





[ ------ 200% ----- ][ ------ 190% ----- ][ ------ 180% ----- ][ ------ 100% ------ ][ ------- 75% ------- ][ ------ 50% ------ ]

level exp needed level exp needed level exp needed level exp needed level exp needed level exp needed

2 2,000 2 1,900 2 1,800 2 1,000 2 750 2 500

3 4,000 3 3,800 3 3,600 3 2,000 3 1,500 3 1,000

4 7,333 4 6,966 4 6,600 4 3,666 4 2,750 4 1,833

5 13,443 5 12,771 5 12,100 5 6,721 5 5,041 5 3,360



6 23,045 6 21,893 6 20,742 6 11,521 6 8,641 6 5,760

7 39,505 7 37,530 7 35,557 7 19,750 7 14,813 7 9,874

8 64,195 8 60,986 8 57,780 8 32,093 8 24,071 8 16,045

9 104,316 9 99,102 9 93,892 9 52,151 9 39,115 9 26,073

10 162,269 10 154,158 10 146,054 10 81,123 10 60,845 10 40,558



11 252,418 11 239,801 11 227,195 11 126,191 11 94,647 11 63,090

12 378,627 12 359,701 12 340,792 12 189,286 12 141,970 12 94,635

13 567,940 13 539,551 13 511,188 13 283,929 13 212,955 13 141,952

14 820,357 14 779,351 14 738,382 14 410,119 14 307,601 14 205,041

15 1,184,960 15 1,125,729 15 1,066,551 15 592,394 15 444,312 15 296,170



[ ------ 200% ----- ][ ------ 190% ----- ][ ------ 180% ----- ][ ------ 100% ------ ][ ------- 75% ------- ][ ------ 50% ------ ]



16 1,658,944 16 1,576,020 16 1,493,171 16 829,351 16 622,036 16 414,638

17 2,322,521 17 2,206,428 17 2,090,439 17 1,161,091 17 870,850 17 580,493

18 3,167,074 18 3,008,765 18 2,850,598 18 1,583,305 18 1,187,522 18 791,581

19 3,958,842 19 3,760,956 19 3,563,247 19 1,979,131 19 1,484,402 19 989,476

20 4,948,552 20 4,701,195 20 4,454,058 20 2,473,913 20 1,855,502 20 1,236,845



25 15,101,781 25 14,346,906 25 13,592,703 25 7,549,781 25 5,662,540 25 3,774,550

30 33,016,383 30 31,366,032 30 29,717,150 30 16,505,764 30 12,379,770 30 8,252,137

35 66,407,500 35 63,088,000 35 59,771,700 35 33,198,984 35 24,900,136 35 16,597,992

40 133,568,800 40 126,892,200 40 120,222,000 40 66,774,800 40 50,082,800 40 33,384,487

45 268,654,400 45 255,225,300 45 241,809,100 45 134,307,800 45 100,734,100 45 67,147,900

50 540,359,500 50 513,348,800 50 486,364,000 50 270,140,500 50 202,612,000 50 135,058,100



55 1,086,855,800 55 1,032,527,500 55 978,251,500 55 543,348,700 55 407,524,900 55 271,649,800

60 1,772,607,000 60 1,690,543,000 60 1,582,227,700 60 820,739,800 60 615,575,000 60 410,332,700

65 2,859,704,900 65 2,739,126,100 65 2,547,316,200 65 1,264,175,700 65 904,481,400 65 602,913,100

70 4,684,545,100 70 4,507,375,300 70 4,162,271,800 70 2,021,753,400 70 1,419,878,800 70 885,876,900

75 7,724,603,800 75 7,429,011,500 75 6,891,701,000 75 3,327,148,416 75 2,278,532,500 75 1,392,542,70



[ ------ 200% ----- ][ ------ 190% ----- ][ ------ 180% ----- ][ ------ 100% ------ ][ ------- 75% ------- ][ ------ 50% ------ ]

Damn this is boring me ;)

you wouldn't compare charts to see it, you'd compare time levelling, and as you can see, btwn 200 to 100 it's still 1/2, just like what 2x'ing the exp would do

Yeah..all you do is take the chart % and divide it by 3, that is the equivalent of it being 3x..like they said, if your exp chart is 3 times smaller (divided by 3), 1 point of experience means 3 times as much as it used to.. ;)

I voted the last b/c it's the same as 3x monexp, but it doesn't roll the charts as quick!