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Re: User submitable records - PLS VOTE [Archive] - ForumsHQ
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2002 1:56 pm
by syntax53
heh, it's classified ;)
Re: User submitable records - PLS VOTE [Archive] - ForumsHQ
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2002 2:22 pm
by Reckless
Tell me in private! I've got GS-13 classification! :D
Re: User submitable records - PLS VOTE [Archive] - ForumsHQ
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2002 7:36 pm
by Rust In Peace
You and Panterra working on that mud together or something? ;)
Re: User submitable records - PLS VOTE [Archive] - ForumsHQ
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2002 7:46 pm
by syntax53
nope
Re: User submitable records - PLS VOTE [Archive] - ForumsHQ
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2002 7:48 pm
by Rust In Peace
Since you say it's important for the scene.. is it NMR related?
Re: User submitable records - PLS VOTE [Archive] - ForumsHQ
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2002 9:22 pm
by iNViSiGOD
Sounds like a familiar idea, i tried gettin people to submit edits and what not at one time, little interest was shown, but i think its a koo idea anyway.
Re: User submitable records - PLS VOTE [Archive] - ForumsHQ
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2002 9:46 pm
by dxpac666
Nooooooooo you have to update NMR more!
Re: User submitable records - PLS VOTE [Archive] - ForumsHQ
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2002 9:49 pm
by Reckless
what is it dxpac? hehe
Re: User submitable records - PLS VOTE [Archive] - ForumsHQ
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2002 5:53 am
by the crazy animal
I would like to see this go a step further with a description database that included areas and rooms too. For the reasons of some people can make really good items and spells while others might be able to make very richly descriptive bulk descriptions for those items and areas at the same time. So you could shop around for a good text description of a temple foyer or a town hall. Or item descriptions for a broadsword or a crown.
Other than for descriptions I don’t’ think the items should be kept in full database form. Perhaps like darcnes mentioned each item could be a file that contained it and its supporting components.
Using a system of variables in place of the identifying numbers so that the numbers are striped out on export and then new corresponding numbers are replaced when imported. Each item could then be compacted down into a pack with all the supporting features included with in it.
Example:
An item could be exported and then packed down into a container file.
That way each type of pack has an identifier showing that it’s a monster or item or whatever else it is. Each item pack could then be tagged with a brief description and the name of who made it along with other information.
File name could be something like:
”whateveritem.idat” for items
“whatevermon.mdat” for monsters
“whatervspell”.sdat” for spells
“Whateverques.qdat” for quests
When the item is exported into the pack:
“Spell 100” becomes “Spell #S” and any reference to “Spell 100” becomes a reference to “Spell” #S to keep the correct logical links. The same could be done with messages and text blocks since they all have number unique identifiers.
Then when the item is decompressed in NMR from the pack:
“Spell #S” and references to “Spell #S” could be given new number identifiers along with the other supporting features that it requires.
Forgive me as I now start to babble on about now about the number of benefits of storing them this way.
Creating module like groupings is one of them. Since you could zip all of the supporting parts into one zip file.
Keeping them in compressed packs would also allow for decentralized keeping of the files too. So if someone wants to make a test board and provide the remod packs used on that board they could do so with greater ease then they could with only a centralized database.
Item testing programs could be programmed so all you do is tell it what file it is looking for and it checks the entire file for errors as well as performing statistics on it based on real game variables.
Keeping them in packs also would allow for editing while the mud was running so instead of directly placing the item or monster into the game and chancing them getting overwritten you could place them into the pack first then import them into the game when ready.
Blah Blah Blah….
Now were going to need a similar system for areas….
What I’d really like to see though would be an open source version or forge of the main game engine that could use the existing data structures with out the existing room dependencies and map limitations.
Ok I have to go do something or I’m going to start getting obsessive again….
TCA
Re: User submitable records - PLS VOTE [Archive] - ForumsHQ
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2002 10:03 am
by syntax53
"At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
...after the first paragraph it was just all fuzz.
-syn
p.s. is this scorpion?